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Spoilers DC's Legends of Tomorrow - Season 1

I remember that mini-series - the idea of any means of time-travel being a one-shot was a bit odd even at the time given the Legion were going backwards and forwards without issue...
 
Their tech was a thousand years better, invented by an alien with a 12th level intellect.

I think it's more likely that Time Cops were ####ing him invisibly.

Post Crisis Superman couldn't time travel under his own power.

I think John Byrne said that all those Superboy + Legion stories from the 70s were a trick by the Time trapper using a pocket universe, for ####s and giggles, but then at one point the Time trapper retroactively turned out to have always been Old Cosmic Boy.
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Oh, Zero Hour, you so silly.
 
The Time Trapper's identity keeps changing. Legends could just make Time Trapper the recurring villain of the series with a different identity each season.
 
As long as Captain Atom turns out to Monarch.

Found a Time Masters mini from 2010, should be better?

Dan Jurgens, The search for Batman. Wow. I thought that that was much earlier?

Oh.

We don't know who Rip Hunter's mother is!

Dan Jurgens (late 2015).
"I’ve been around long enough where edicts have been issued that say universes die, no more time travel, but oh wait now we can...and I just think characters live on in a way," Jurgens said. "Certainly with Convergence, what we did is we sort of tweaked Booster Gold's origin and we also showed what happened to Booster Gold from the pre-Flashpointuniverse....I always look at it and say there’s going to be a chance one day, someday somehow, to give those answers. And that doesn’t mean [both answers] would be in the same story, but things live on."

It's gotta be Powergirl damnit!

Oh.

If his mom is Kara, then Rip Hunter is hiding a lot of near Kryptonian level superpowers for what reason?
 
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I'm loving the idea of a time traveling super hero team-up show with eight characters. Just when I thought Stein was completely superfluous they give him a great story in the second episode that really humanizes him. The weak links for me are the Hawks and Vandal Savage. I just don't think they got good actors for those roles. They don't have "presence", which is particularly unfortunate since Savage is our Big Bad. Atom, Stein, Rip, Cold, and Heatwave are great though.
 
Young Stein is a problem now that he knows about the Waverider and metahumans.

As Young Stein lives his life completely differently, old Stein in the Waverider is going to start changing.
 
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I think John Byrne said that all those Superboy + Legion stories from the 70s were a trick by the Time trapper using a pocket universe, for ####s and giggles, but then at one point the Time trapper retroactively turned out to have always been Old Cosmic Boy.
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Oh, Zero Hour, you so silly.

Byrne did that to get around the problem of 'if Superman was never superboy - who joined and inspired the legion" - it's the same storyline where he kills General Zod.
 
Zod vented the core, that killed the atmosphere and all life on Earth except a small habitat called Smallville protected under a force shield invented Lex Luthor.

He got what he deserved
 
Just when I thought Stein was completely superfluous they give him a great story in the second episode that really humanizes him.

Well, Victor Garber is the first-billed actor in the cast, and certainly the most prestigious, so it was a sure thing Stein wouldn't be superfluous. (He'd be fluous? Subfluous?)

The weak links for me are the Hawks and Vandal Savage. I just don't think they got good actors for those roles. They don't have "presence", which is particularly unfortunate since Savage is our Big Bad.

I get the impression that Savage won't be the only villain, that he'll show up for the big events and the team will deal with other threats as they search history for him. Though I could be wrong, of course.

I do think it was odd to use this version of Savage as the main villain -- to conflate him with Hath-Set and tie him so closely to just one ongoing character, Hawkgirl. (And Rip, but only in your stock revenge-plot fashion.) If he were the more proper Vandal Savage, an immortal Cro-Magnon, that would make more sense as the big bad of an ensemble series.
 
The crappy mini from 1990 has (Bob Wayne and a very young Art Thibert) was all about Vandal savage vs. Rip Hunter. Of course Vandal is first seen to be a mysterious figure in shadows at a board room meeting, then the board room is revealed to be the HQ for the Illuminati, and finally (middle of the story really) Vandal Savage is revealed as founder and pope of the Illuminati.

Rip foolishly thinks that he is fighting a 1000 year old conspiracy through time, but it winds up that he is actually fighting a 50,000 year old man through time.
 
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Ten bucks says Rip (and/or the rest of the team) is/are the one(s) who accidentally created Vandal and the Hawks in the first place. He/they just doesn't/don't know it yet.

Man, I hate the English language sometimes. XD
 
All kinds of things happen in the comics. There aren't any strict rules or guidelines for time travel stories. There aren't any on Doctor Who either and that show's all about time travel...

Doctor Who had the Blinovitch Limitation Effect that kicked in when a person meet themselves and it's been mentioned in numerous eps about the 1st law of time which is about crossing one's own time line.
 
Doctor Who had the Blinovitch Limitation Effect that kicked in when a person meet themselves and it's been mentioned in numerous eps about the 1st law of time which is about crossing one's own time line.

Although it was really only used in one onscreen storyline, "Mawdryn Undead." Nearly all the other references have been in books, audios, or comics. And a number of stories have shown people interacting physically with their past selves without trouble, including the Doctor on various occasions, Rose Tyler in "Father's Day," Sardick in "A Christmas Carol," Amy Pond in "The Big Bang" and the mini-episode "Time," and Clara in the mini-episode "Clara and the TARDIS."
 
Speaking of that Waverider ship...whose idea was it to use that set of fonts for set decoration?
 
So no one is shocked or curious how/why Damien Darhk has been ageless for the past 40 years (at least)?

Will we see his conclusion or origin here or on Arrow?
 
So no one is shocked or curious how/why Damien Darhk has been ageless for the past 40 years (at least)?

Will we see his conclusion or origin here or on Arrow?

We already know from Arrow that Darhk was a contemporary of Matt Nable's Ra's al Ghul and his competitor for the title, a title that Nable's character won prior to the 1850s. Darhk was to be killed, but he escaped and stole some Lazarus Pit waters. So we know he's close to 200 years old at least.
 
Say whuuu..?

Anyway, they established last year that Darhk was a contemporary of the previous Ra's Al Ghul, and that he'd had a jacuzzi of his own stocked with stolen Lazarus Pit mojo. So, no surprise that he's around in 1975, looking pretty much the same. Odds are he's well over a century old by 2016.

http://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/Damien_Darhk

Mark
 
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