He'll be too busy bothering Lucifer in Los Angeles.Superman from another world played by Tom Welling?
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I meant Tyler Hoechlin of course since he's the Arrowverse Superman. If you were talking alternate universe Superman's I'd prefer either Brandon Roath or - sans moustache - Henry Cavill.Superman from another world played by Tom Welling?
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. I was thinking a 'Prisoner of Zenda' type story where Oliver impersonates his Earth 38 counterpart (who never went to the island and is still a womanising, entitled jerk) for some reason.
I think they should go with the idea that E38 Oliver died and Robert survived with Shado and maybe a 10 or 11yo Emiko.
Wasn't that already implied as the state of Earth 2, more or less?
Ok Welling and Routh as superman from different Earth's
And Dean Cain as Kal, the older statesmen Superman.
They could easily put on a special, with Cain, Routh, Welling and Hoechlin all playing 4 different versions of the Man of Steel.
Dean Cain is already Jeremiah Danvers on Supergirl. How about John Haymes Newton or Gerard Christopher? Or Tim Daly or George Newbern?
Him already being Danver's on SG is what would enable them to pool their already signed actors for a Superman special. They have 3 of them locked down already.
It's also what would make it unfeasible for him to play Superman, because Jeremiah is not Kryptonian. John Wesley Shipp is able to play both Henry Allen and Jay Garrick because they established that those are doppelgangers of the same person with different names due to adoption.
They could use Cain as a liberal interpretation of Eradicator.
Also, +1 for Henry McCord.
Also, +1 for Henry McCord.
Kara looks just like Atom's cousin, though.
I'm not sure whether they've actually established the Multiverse limited to only 52 universes (like they did in the comics for a time), but the general idea I get from people like Geoff Johns and Greg Berlanti is they consider all iterations of any DC characters in any medium to be part of the Multiverse.
So, the L&C Superman and SR Superman, as well as slight variations of them from other "closer" universes are part of the Multiverse and could therefore theoretically appear in the DCW-verse (though, production-wise, it would probably be easier to make them variations).
Another way to go could be the Crime Syndicate Ultraman, who (as far as I remember) is not a Kryptonian, and thusly could easily be the Earth-3 (wait, DCW-Mutliverse Earth-3 is Jay Garrick's, isn't it? Well, whatever earth's) doppelganger of Ray Palmer or Jeremiah Danvers. Though, considering Cain already had that mystery "has he turned evil or not" going in season 2, so it would probably be more fun to see Routh doing the Evil Superman thing.
That was just a gag. And he said "kinda looks like," not "looks just like."
No, they've said it's pretty much limitless.
Information from outside the shows isn't binding. Unless it's established in the shows themselves, it's not established.
Besides, we have more than enough gimmick casting in the Berlantiverse already. Gimmickry is not, in and of itself, a reason to cast a role or tell a story. Yes, doing things like casting Shipp as Barry's father or Cain as Kara's foster father is a wink to the audience, but it's not too blatant a wink, because on a textual level it's still just an actor playing a role, and the story doesn't depend on extraneous information about that actor's previous roles. If you actually bring in the same actor playing his original character, that drags the in-joke subtext into text and is confusing as hell to viewers who aren't in on the joke, and it's just a terrible idea. It makes the wink to the audience an end in itself rather than just a side element of something that serves a bigger purpose, and that's cheesy and pandering.
Aside from my comment being a bit tongue-in-cheek itself ...
It was a meta-gag. In-universe, he probably meant it (or it was a very weird in-universe gag). And either we treat what is said on the shows as fact, but then all that is said on the shows, or we take it as just a gag that isn't really canon, but then nothing is canon and the producers can do anything they want (including, if they so choose, a three- or more -way Supermen crossover).
As for "just like" or "kinda like", it's relative (as well as relatives), and only Ray knows for sure.
Alright then.
Who said anything about binding?! The question is whether this several Supermen with different actors scenario were possible, and what I've said was that there was nothing to contradict it, and the philosophy of the makers would actually speak for it being (theoretically) possible.
And all this goes to whether it should be done, which is obviously debatable. But it definitely is possible to be done.
I will never understand why people use "It's possible" to defend ideas that are obviously either staggeringly unlikely or absurd. Lots of very bad ideas are technically possible, so it's meaningless as a defense. (Both Legends of the Superheroes and The Star Wars Holiday Special proved to be possible.) If "It's possible" is the only argument that one can muster, then one has no argument.
I wasn't making an argument to do it. Sure, it would be get my geeky-sense going wild, but I haven't argued that it makes narrative sense for the shows to go there.
My argument was that you can't just dismiss the possibility based on canon or what the producers are willing to do (they've proven often enough that they're up for a lot of pure fan-service).
The question of whether it should be done is a different one. I'd say it might be possible to do a narratively satisfying version of such a crossover, but it'd need a lot of work and should definitely not be done just for the heck of it like, say, the musical episode.
I say it's a cool idea from the viewpoint of a life-long Superman fan, but I'm not sure it's wise to follow up on it, even though it is possible canon-wise.
My argument was that you can't just dismiss the possibility based on canon or what the producers are willing to do (they've proven often enough that they're up for a lot of pure fan-service).
The question of whether it should be done is a different one. I'd say it might be possible to do a narratively satisfying version of such a crossover, but it'd need a lot of work and should definitely not be done just for the heck of it like, say, the musical episode.
I say it's a cool idea from the viewpoint of a life-long Superman fan, but I'm not sure it's wise to follow up on it, even though it is possible canon-wise.
Assuming there is an infinite amount of earths in the multiverse it is a certainty that one exists where Superman looks like Kara's foster dad or Ray Palmer.
As far as cramming as much old TV Superman stuff in the show goes, instead of having all the past Superman on display, I'd personally rather them find some excuse (no matter how ridiculous) to get John Shea and and John Glover in the same room spouting vile, vindictive, sociopathic evilness at each other.
Well the details are in on this year's fourway crossover and I have to say the set up for it is something I was fully expecting
http://tvweb.com/arrowverse-crossover-2017-crisis-on-earth-x-november/
In addition on the casting front:
http://www.superherohype.com/news/4...uperhero-the-ray-in-the-cw-crossover#/slide/1
I got to say I like their marketing gimmick of using comic art to sell it.
Barry & Iris get married and the others attend their wedding including some of the 'Supergirl' crew
In addition on the casting front:
http://www.superherohype.com/news/4...uperhero-the-ray-in-the-cw-crossover#/slide/1
I got to say I like their marketing gimmick of using comic art to sell it.
Yeah, that graphic definitely reminds me of the JSA-All Star Squadron-JLA crossover comics I bought when I was a kid. They are proving they understand the fans that (rightfully) hype their shows.
But I am having trouble looking at it (too small, low resolution)....I would lOVE to share it, especially if I could see it clearly. it looks like there's another character named Zari? Also from Earth X?
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