DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond
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Not a shocker but the cast of "The Flash" will not be doing any promotion for the film.
https://variety.com/2023/film/news/...ler-premiere-secret-ending-sequel-1235632040/
https://variety.com/2023/film/news/...ler-premiere-secret-ending-sequel-1235632040/
I know the article claims it's the "preserve the secret ending", but I think anybody with any sense knows that's just PR BS to cover the fact they're just trying to avoid anyone having to answer awkward questions about Ezra Miller.
Probably so they don’t have to constantly answer the same question.
“Who is faster, Flash or Superman?”
In a footrace, it's the Flash. Flying, its Superman. At least that's what my buddies and I decided when we were kids 
“I’ve beaten you before, Barry.”
“Those races were for charity, Clark.”
Whoooooooooooooooooooshm
“Those races were for charity, Clark.”
Whoooooooooooooooooooshm
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Also, the contemporary Barry Allen (not sure about the current Wally who has just come back) is acknowledged as being faster than Superman.
Christ, there’s 5 people doing my job at work.If Superman is faster, why even bother having the Flash?
Why not??
Also, there are, like, a zillion speedster heroes in the DCU alone. I mean, "speedster" has become a category.
The answers depend on who is making the argument. For my buddies when we were kids, we just didn't like the idea of Superman losing to anyone
Yeah what a BS bit of PR. I literally had the option to go to a screening 2 weeks in advance of the open but decided not to because it was 3 hours of driving on a work night. Having just one premiere doesn't "protect the secret ending" when you're still doing advance screenings in every major city in the developed (at least) world.
Yes, the "secret ending" is no longer a secret, along with certain cameos.
The answers depend on who is making the argument. For my buddies when we were kids, we just didn't like the idea of Superman losing to anyone
That's why Flash-Superman race stories in comics have often ended in ties, or have been left inconclusive like in Superman: The Animated Series: "Speed Demons" (or the first Flash crossover episode in Supergirl if we count other Kryptonians).
But when there is a winner, it's consistently the Flash, regardless of which Flash it is. Although the first time it happened, in a classic Denny O'Neil story, both Superman and the Flash were weakened by bad guys and had to crawl slowly the last few feet to the finish line, so Superman fans could reassure themselves that Superman could've won at full strength. And there's one where it's left ambiguous that Superman might've thrown the race (for noble reasons, of course). But that very story also pointed out that Superman wasn't trained as a runner, so the Flash had the advantage.
In the end Superman doesn't have the speed force, so (Post Crisis, at least) he'll never be faster then someone who has it and can take full advantage of it. Now Pre-Crisis Superman, who can fly fast enough to fly through time as easily as he could go for a walk down the street, he's probably faster then The Flash. But Post Crisis (and even New 52 and Rebirth) Superman I've never seen able to run (or fly) faster then light/through time/dimensional barriers, or any of the other speed force things we've seen Flash do.
So, I'd say that modern Superman comes in second in speed to the experienced Speed Force users in their prime, which is still faster then the vast majority of everyone who has ever lived in the whole DC Universe. I've always thought that Superman is such an effective hero because of the variety of his powers anyway, not that he's the absolute best at literally everything he can do (not counting Pre Crisis Superman obviously, who was literally the best at anything and everything the writers could think of).
So, I'd say that modern Superman comes in second in speed to the experienced Speed Force users in their prime, which is still faster then the vast majority of everyone who has ever lived in the whole DC Universe. I've always thought that Superman is such an effective hero because of the variety of his powers anyway, not that he's the absolute best at literally everything he can do (not counting Pre Crisis Superman obviously, who was literally the best at anything and everything the writers could think of).
I honestly don't know what the secret ending is.
Probably like Days of Future Past where they reveal the new timeline they will be using from now on. Like what the New 52 was after Flashpoint.