According to Zachary Levi, SHAZAM! 2 will start shooting early next year. He also mentioned the predicament of the movie having to shoot during the CoVID crisis while needing to shoot soon before the child actors grow too much.
DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond
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If one of his costars was going to publicly back him up, I would expect it to be Momoa. He tends to be the most unfiltered member of the cast. Although, merely saying that you stand with him doesn't in any way substantiate or even clarify his allegations.
Fisher did drop a video that gives a few more details, at least about his interactions with Walter Hamada and Geoff Johns.
What exactly is Fisher trying to accomplish? As far as anyone can figure out, the only thing he's accusing anyone of doing is being mean to him. I can understand being bitter about that. I'm a Scorpio, and we can basically hold grudges forever. If, a year after Justice League came out, Geoff Johns was rubbing in his face that they had introduced another Cyborg on the Doom Patrol TV series, that seems petty and unnecessary. But sometimes people are assholes and we're in a position where we can't do anything about it. What does he expect Warner Media to do about it? If he expects them to fire Geoff Johns, I don't think that will happen. If they fired every producer who acts like an abusive diva, there would be no producers left in Hollywood. (Poor thing. Maybe, before he got into the Hollywood game, he should have sat down and watched Action. https://www.amazon.com/Action-Compl...vd+jay+mohr&qid=1599614146&s=movies-tv&sr=1-1 )
If he's hoping to hurt Joss Whedon's career, he needn't bother. Merely working on Justice League already did that.
(Plus, ever since Whedon's wife accused him of being a serial adulterer, I think nearly everyone's afraid to work with the guy because everyone's waiting for the other shoe to drop and a #metoo story to come out.)
I'm also confused as to why he won't go into more public detail about the accusations. He previously mentioned that he's bound by an NDA but, apart from any plot details relating to creative differences, what kind of accusations could the NDA possibly prevent him from revealing? Even if such accusations were somehow covered by an NDA, wouldn't he already be violating it by mentioning as much of it as he already has?
He also talks about wanting to protect other unnamed 3rd parties, claims that he couldn't give information to the investigator because it was too sensitive, and then says that he thinks that Warner Bros. wants him to sue them so that they can get a judge to put a gag order on him. I'd say that he's the most paranoid person ever to be associated with DC, but then I remembered Alan Moore.
Fisher did drop a video that gives a few more details, at least about his interactions with Walter Hamada and Geoff Johns.
What exactly is Fisher trying to accomplish? As far as anyone can figure out, the only thing he's accusing anyone of doing is being mean to him. I can understand being bitter about that. I'm a Scorpio, and we can basically hold grudges forever. If, a year after Justice League came out, Geoff Johns was rubbing in his face that they had introduced another Cyborg on the Doom Patrol TV series, that seems petty and unnecessary. But sometimes people are assholes and we're in a position where we can't do anything about it. What does he expect Warner Media to do about it? If he expects them to fire Geoff Johns, I don't think that will happen. If they fired every producer who acts like an abusive diva, there would be no producers left in Hollywood. (Poor thing. Maybe, before he got into the Hollywood game, he should have sat down and watched Action. https://www.amazon.com/Action-Compl...vd+jay+mohr&qid=1599614146&s=movies-tv&sr=1-1 )
If he's hoping to hurt Joss Whedon's career, he needn't bother. Merely working on Justice League already did that.
(Plus, ever since Whedon's wife accused him of being a serial adulterer, I think nearly everyone's afraid to work with the guy because everyone's waiting for the other shoe to drop and a #metoo story to come out.)I'm also confused as to why he won't go into more public detail about the accusations. He previously mentioned that he's bound by an NDA but, apart from any plot details relating to creative differences, what kind of accusations could the NDA possibly prevent him from revealing? Even if such accusations were somehow covered by an NDA, wouldn't he already be violating it by mentioning as much of it as he already has?
He also talks about wanting to protect other unnamed 3rd parties, claims that he couldn't give information to the investigator because it was too sensitive, and then says that he thinks that Warner Bros. wants him to sue them so that they can get a judge to put a gag order on him. I'd say that he's the most paranoid person ever to be associated with DC, but then I remembered Alan Moore.
It's pretty rambling. He says that he's shocked that Warner Bros. put out their statement refuting some of what he said. He says that, "They do not know how many receipts I have for interactions that I've had." He says that the reason why he didn't cooperate with the investigator was because he realized that the investigator worked for Warner Bros. Pictures, not its parent Warner Media. He brags about the fact that he only got Hamada to agree to an investigation after DEMANDING it, whereas the Warner Bros. press release implies that this was a favor that Hamada was granting to Fisher. He says that Geoff Johns "made veiled threats to my career" and then called him a year after Justice League came out to crow about how they'd introduced a new Cyborg on the TV show. He says that Hamada said, "Well, I worked with Geoff Johns on Shazam! and he doesn't seem like the type of person who would do that," to which Fisher replied, "You weren't there." He says that he thinks that Hamada is just trying to protect Geoff Johns because they still have a business relationship working together on Wonder Woman 1984 and other projects. He also says that he won't go into specifics about what happened on the set of Justice League but does plan on making further statements about how the investigation was handled after the fact. He says that Warner Bros. is trying to defame him. He indicates that he's also doing this on behalf of other people who were mistreated during Justice League who have less of a social media following than he does, so they're afraid to come forward because they're afraid of career blowback. He also said that he's initiated an investigation through SAG/AFTRA (so I don't know why he's not just relying on that process, unless they've also told him that none of his accusations are actionable). He also talks about previous experiences in 2010 trying to unionize a job in New Jersey through the United Food & Commercial Workers Union.
Honestly, I'd recommend at least watching part of the video, then make your own determination about how credible he sounds. For me, I'm willing to accept that everything that he said is true. But I still give it a big, fat "So what?"
Honestly, I'd recommend at least watching part of the video, then make your own determination about how credible he sounds. For me, I'm willing to accept that everything that he said is true. But I still give it a big, fat "So what?"
Posting this here instead of the DC Comics thread, because it's really more for the casual and new fans, Jim Lee presents a YouTube video on the DC Multiverse:
You seem to be looking at it in terms of making demands, though, and that's what I don't understand about your premise. Making suggestions is not the same thing as making demands. Lots of people offer input into the filmmaking process; there are many different ideas and options offered by various cast and crew members, and part of a director's job is to decide which suggestions to accept, reject, or revise. If they're not viable, there's no harm done; the director will just listen, say no, and move on. But you never know when someone might have a great idea, or at least say something that sparks a different idea that's worth pursuing. So there's no good reason not to be open to suggestions. It entails no obligation to act on them (unless they're studio notes handed down from the director's superiors).
As I said before, the problem with Fisher's attitude is that he seems to think Whedon was somehow obligated to follow his suggestions, and that not following them was somehow unfair to him. But that's not how it works.
In the new video, Fisher's reaction to the casting of Joivan Wade as Cyborg in Doom Patrol seems odd. It's not like Wade was a replacement or competitor for him, since he's in a different continuity (one that coexists with the DCEU in the same multiverse, going by Crisis on Infinite Earths), and TV series are rarely considered as important to a franchise as feature films. So I wonder if Johns just happened to mention Wade's casting in DP and Fisher misinterpreted it as rubbing it in his face or whatever.
Yeah, I guess you it's more of his attitude towards Whedon not going with he approached him with, rather than approaching him in the first place.
I'd still love to know what exactly was so horrible that Whedon did. He's being so vague that it makes it hard to really judge what happened, since this is the kind of stuff that people have very different thresholds for.
I'm not really sure of what to make of Jason Momoa tweeting that he "stands with Ray Fisher", it's so vague it's hard to know exactly how much of what Fisher he's been saying and doing he really supports..
I'd still love to know what exactly was so horrible that Whedon did. He's being so vague that it makes it hard to really judge what happened, since this is the kind of stuff that people have very different thresholds for.
I'm not really sure of what to make of Jason Momoa tweeting that he "stands with Ray Fisher", it's so vague it's hard to know exactly how much of what Fisher he's been saying and doing he really supports..
I gather he was dismissive about the Snyder version of the film in the company of people who'd worked hard on it, which is perhaps inconsiderate, but hardly a major scandal. I mean, he was brought on specifically to fix its problems, so its not like anyone should've expected him to praise it much.
Beyond that, I just get the impression that Fisher has a lot of unfounded assumptions about how things are supposed to work in the industry, and that he's taking a lot of things personally that probably weren't meant that way. Though of course that's just an impression.
Yeah, I've known people like that who will get really up in arms about things that were totally not intended as a personal insult. (I had a friend who once asked me & a bunch of other people what movie we should go see. I suggested Mockingjay, Part 2 and everyone else seemed really interested but he didn't like the idea. He got really mad at me and accused me of trying to "undermine his outing" or something. I don't know why he was so mad about it. I just made a suggestion that other people liked. We've barely spoken since then and that was almost 5 years ago.
)I think that there's probably at least some truth to the events that Fisher is describing, even if his interpretation of everyone else's intentions is totally off base. I think it's interesting that Joss Whedon hasn't said anything about this. Even when his ex-wife made all those accusations against him a few years ago, he issued a vague partial denial. That makes me think that there's nothing about Whedon's behavior that he can totally deny. Maybe he even feels a little guilty about it. Or maybe he's just trying to keep his head down and avoid any further PR nightmares until The Nevers comes out and he can start planning his next move.
Variety has an interview with Black Adam producer Hiram Garcia. The current plan is to start shooting in early 2021.
That's the plan but...
Was there anything movie related said at Fandome part 2? All I could see was TV show panels.
Accoring to IGN's report on the Flash movie panel from DCFandome, it will "restart everything, but not forget anything". So it sounds like this will end up being the reboot everyone has expected it to be. It's also going to have "a lot of DC characters".
I'm down with that!
Honestly......
It's really cool how people in The Old Town With Big White Letters still feel 2021 is going to be their salvation..... Covid doesn't expire on 12/31/2020...... How about we just see what 01/01/2021 is like before anyone is hyping anyone on what movie will start filming when?
It's really cool how people in The Old Town With Big White Letters still feel 2021 is going to be their salvation..... Covid doesn't expire on 12/31/2020...... How about we just see what 01/01/2021 is like before anyone is hyping anyone on what movie will start filming when?
Well, not really. The Arrowverse used Flashpoint to make some fairly minor changes, enough to be a story driver for half a season but leaving most of the universe intact. It was Crisis that was used for a more wholesale reworking.
The animated home video movies did begin an ongoing continuity in the wake of their Flashpoint adaptation, but since they had no shared continuity before then, it can't really be considered a reboot.
Jason Momoa Corroborates Ray Fisher's Claims.
Okay, Momoa is not as easy to dismiss. He's an experienced actor with several movies and TV shows under his belt, he knows the business, and he has a career on the line, and if he says there is something to it, then there might actually be something to it.
Okay, Momoa is not as easy to dismiss. He's an experienced actor with several movies and TV shows under his belt, he knows the business, and he has a career on the line, and if he says there is something to it, then there might actually be something to it.