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DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond

theenglish said:
Why CGI? What is wrong with conventional make-up and prosthetics? Those can always be touched up in post-production.
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Because it's not just his face, it's his whole body that would be partly covered in the tech. And combining real life with CGI still doesn't work when it's half and half.

Yes, conventional make-up WOULD work better. But for some reason CGI was used, probably to make the bits where his body transforms.

IMO, a better approach is just using a fully transformed/covered character.
 
Anwar said:
Because it's not just his face, it's his whole body that would be partly covered in the tech. And combining real life with CGI still doesn't work when it's half and half.

Yes, conventional make-up WOULD work better. But for some reason CGI was used, probably to make the bits where his body transforms.

IMO, a better approach is just using a fully transformed/covered character.
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It looked good in Alita. It all just depends on who's doing it, how much time and money is spent, and if the artists are given enough to work with.
 
Anwar said:
You suppose the Snyder Cut would fix that as well?
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I doubt it. It's possible that the original Cyborg scenes were filmed better, but I can't imagine that there's enough time and money to do better effects. But they can't really be worse.
 
Anwar said:
Cyborg is just a bad choice for live-action in the first place, since half his face would have to be CGI and the other half normal. If you're going to have a character like that, go all the way and totally cover them up like Nebula or the Martian Manhunter.
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Anwar said:
Because it's not just his face, it's his whole body that would be partly covered in the tech. And combining real life with CGI still doesn't work when it's half and half.

Yes, conventional make-up WOULD work better. But for some reason CGI was used, probably to make the bits where his body transforms.

IMO, a better approach is just using a fully transformed/covered character.
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Doom Patrol's Cyborg is entirely practical, with a prosthetics on his face and arms, and a chest piece, and it works fine.
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I'm actually surprised to see Ezra Miller back in the roll and the Flash movie moving forward; giving everything that was said after the video of him strangling a patron at a bar. Did they find out that was all fake/staged for some reason or has Warner Bros suddenly decided to completely forget it occurred?
 
I feel like Warner Bros. is probably more gun-shy about canceling actors & other talent. I guess that they already feel committed to keeping Miller for the Fantastic Beasts sequels, so what's one more franchise on top of that? Plus, all of the assorted flack that they took for keeping Johnny Depp in The Crimes of Grindlewald and now some backlash against putting Amber Heard in Aquaman II. They were also quick to pick up James Gunn after Disney dropped him from Guardians of the Galaxy 3. I figure that, unless it's some kind of severe sexual misconduct, racism, or felony charges, they probably figure that it's best to just keep their heads down and keep moving forward.

They probably have a point too. I think that general moviegoing audiences aren't as attuned to this kind of thing. Movies are a fun escape for them, not a way of life. They don't care about any of the behind-the-scenes stuff. I remember a few years ago mentioning to some of my coworkers that there were rumors that they were making a new Pirates of the Caribbean movie without Johnny Depp, since this was at the height of the controversy with Amber Heard. All of my coworkers gave me the exact same 2 reactions:
1. They'd never heard anything about Amber Heard's accusations against Johnny Depp.
2. They had no interest in seeing a Pirates of the Caribbean movie without Captain Jack Sparrow.
 
As far a Miller's incident goes, I thought that all we ever received was a fifteen second out of context video clip. He was not charged with anything or even under investigation--is that not correct? Similarly, Heard and Depp's story is just odd with a lot of hearsay and not a lot of facts. Other than celebrity gossip, is there anything to really get upset about without having more proof?

These cases are quite different than the cases involving people like OJ Simpson, Bill Cosby, and Kevin Spacey.
 
Yeah, canceling Miller or Heard out of the DCEU would be an extreme overreaction based on what's been reported about them, and calls to do so seem to come mainly from people who don't like the actors in the first place.
 
Saul said:
I don't believe it's final. If it was then why not announce this at the DC Fandome? No, I think they are saving another announcement here which will be even bigger.
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With that logic, why not wait to announce the even more exciting Michael Keaton to the role?

I don’t think there's any more Affleck surprises in store. This will probably be it for him, at least in front of the camera with the character.
 
M'rk son of Mogh said:
With that logic, why not wait to announce the even more exciting Michael Keaton to the role?

I don’t think there's any more Affleck surprises in store. This will probably be it for him, at least in front of the camera with the character.
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Yeah, it seems an obvious way to hand over the reins to R-Pattz.
 
DigificWriter said:
How?

That movie has nothing whatsoever to do with the DCEU continuity that Ezra's movie and Affleck's return in said movie perpetuates.
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I’m not even going to begin listing the number of predictions about the DCEU you’ve confidently made, in your inimitable know-it-all way, only to be proven utterly wrong, but given that this is a multiverse story and given how the original Flashpoint story allows for a reset the DC continuity, I think even the dimmest of posters can see how there might be room for such a transition to occur.
 
^ How, exactly, is making a factual statement (Robert Pattinson's The Batman is not part of the DCEU continuity that Ezra's film and Affleck's return in said film) a "prediction" of anything?
 
^Michael Keaton’s Batman isn’t in continuity with them either. Yet he’s supposedly appearing in the film too.

I used the word “seems.” I am not claiming to know what will happen, I’m expressing an opinion on what opportunities Affleck’s return creates. In particular how this *might allow* for the continuity to be reset so that the Pattinson Batman is now the DCEU Batman?

You haven’t seen the Flashpoint script or the script for The Batman, so you can’t say what is or isn’t going to be in continuity. So I think the word “prediction” works very well in this context.
 
^ It's obvious from looking at the cast listing of The Batman that it's not a part of the same continuity as MoS, BvS, WW, JL, AM, Shzm, BoP, this Flash movie, or the forthcoming sequels or companion films to WW, Shzm, and AM.

Could this Flash movie change things so that there's a continuity merger? Possibly.

That doesn't make my statement of fact about The Batman's current relationship to the DCEU continuity into which Ezra and Affleck's Batman fit a "prediction" of anything.
 
^ I think you need to go and check the meaning of the word ‘seems’ and the meaning of the phrase ‘hand over the reins.’ The fact of the matter is that R-Pattz is the future Batman and young enough to presumably carry on the franchise for some years. Affleck is 48, has already left the role once and all we know is that he is returning as Batman - one of at least 2 different Batmen - for a supporting role in another superhero’s headline movie. How large that role is, none of us know. My original post said nothing about continuity but I do suspect that the Flashpoint multiverse is being used to setup new versions of at least some of the characters who’ve appeared in the DCEU so far. Whether or not I’m right remains to be seen but I think that anyone with more than a passing familiarity with the English language will have no problem with the words “hand over the reins.”
 
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