DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond

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  1. YLu

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    Johnson’s business partner, Dany Garcia, is Cavill’s manager.
     
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  2. Grendelsbayne

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    There's a lot of talk on other forums that it's possibly Cavill who's holding out at this point, not WB. That he isn't happy with the amount of money or the extent to which WB is actually willing to commit to the character and he doesn't feel a need to negotiate because he's doing fine with the Witcher.
     
  3. Tosk

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    Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Cavill is at least partially holding out for a measure of control in regards to the direction of the character. I think past interviews have maybe shown that he doesn't completely agree with some of the decisions made thus far.
     
  4. dupersuper

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    He should just tell her to jump off a building in the next town over. Then the suicide would be "over there"...
     
  5. StCoop

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    So total fiction in other worlds.
     
  6. M'rk son of Mogh

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    Speculation. Could be right, could be wrong. But it's not outright fiction.
     
  7. TREK_GOD_1

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    I know, and Garcia would be the next one--actually the best person to provide key information about Cavill, but one can assume Johnson is aware of more information, hence his out in the open advocacy for Cavill.

    Agreed.
     
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    I have to be honest. I'm just not invested in the DCEU or the MCU anymore.
     
  9. Sketcher

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    Just get Tyler Hoechlin to do any potential Superman movie. It'll be like the good ole days of Tom Welling/Brandon Routh, but going in the opposite direction.
     
  10. dupersuper

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    I'm guessing he would have kept his word literally and used super breath to make an air cushion or something.

     
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  11. The Realist

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    Well, what he actually promises is that he won't "stop" her if she jumps:

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    I think his stricken hesitation there kind of says it all. It's a matter of trust -- the terms of their agreement. I don't feel like a clever bit of literalism or some other loophole would really honor the spirit of his pledge to her. Again, I tend to think he means what he says, with the greatest and most painful reluctance, but prays he won't have to prove it.
     
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  12. JD

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    From what you posted, I think he was just confident enough that she wouldn't actually jump, that he said just to make her feel like he wasn't trying to force a choice on her that he knew she was going to make on her own.
    I did, and I still stand by my point. It's highly insulting to cartoons, which have come a long way in the last few decades.
     
  13. The Realist

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    Agreed, I imagine he was fairly confident he wouldn't have to make that ultimate choice. Still, there was the possibility, which is part of what gives the scene its stakes and its power.
     
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  14. Christopher

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    There were always some cartoons that were more sophisticated and adult-oriented than others. Back in the '60s, Jonny Quest, The Flintstones, and The Jetsons were made for prime time. The classic theatrical cartoons of the '40s and '50s were made with both children and adults in mind and often contained racy or topical humor that went over children's heads. And of course, other countries like Japan never had the American stereotype that "cartoons are just for kids" and have always made animation that was more adult-oriented.

    So it's not so much that animation itself has changed as that the public perception of it as a legitimate medium has become more common. Though of course, the stereotype persists.
     
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  15. DigificWriter

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    @JD The word "cartoonish" as used in this context has nothing to do with cartoons, though.
     
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    I believe he will continue to miss that point.
     
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  17. JD

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    Cartoon pretty clearly means "catoon like", and is being used as a negative, which is what I object to.
     
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    Cartoonists don’t get this offended over the use of the word.
     
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    <-----Feeling a little cartoonish.