DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond

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  1. Christopher

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    Less of a factor than for network TV, but more of a factor than for a tentpole feature film. I certainly wouldn't object to seeing a more space-based GL series, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were more Earthbound. Even a space-based show would probably have some concessions to budget, like having permanent standing sets (maybe a hero ship like in Green Lantern: The Animated Series), infrequent use of non-humanoid GLs, or the like.
     
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  2. dupersuper

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    I never realized that was who played Tom.

    How so?
     
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    Since the Flash series came out though, Barry in the comics has acted more like Gustin's version--which is mostly inspired by the Wally West Flash. Barry has taken on Wally's personality and Wally has become more serious.
     
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  4. Christopher

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    As theenglish said, he was more like Wally West in personality.


    Not surprising. Comics have always followed the lead of their mass-media adaptations, since those have a larger audience. In the '40s, Superman comics adopted Jimmy, Perry, and kryptonite from the radio series, the Daily Planet from the newspaper comic strip (which changed it from the Daily Star because there were actual newspapers of that name), and Superman's ability to fly (rather than just jumping really high) from the animated theatrical shorts. Also in that decade, Batman sent their chubby Alfred to a health spa to slim him down into a lookalike for the Alfred from the '43 movie serial, and in the '60s, they brought Alfred back from the dead when he was included as a character in the TV show, and created Batgirl at the behest of the show's producers. In the '70s, Billy Batson went touring the country in an RV with Uncle Dudley to mimic the Shazam! TV series. And so on, right up to Marvel adding Phil Coulson and the Agents of SHIELD to comics canon.

    (Although I don't recall if Marvel tried to make The Incredible Hulk echo the Bixby TV series. I'd be surprised if they hadn't.)
     
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  5. M'rk son of Mogh

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    It's possible as Betty wasn't really in the book at this time. That may have been an influence of the show, although the story of her marrying Talbot was done well before (Like, 6 or 7 years) so it could have been just part of the story all along.

    Otherwise, the Hulk book really didn't take the lead on the show since the show was a very stripped down version of the book. Ross and the army were still a thorn in Hulk's side and he was still on the run as he basically always was in the books. Much stronger, too, since there was no budget to worry about. And as verbal as he generally was.

    Though I remember the excitement of the Hulk tv series 2 parter, "Prometheus", where the army was involved. To me it was finally matching the books!
     
  6. Noname Given

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    They really couldn't. Aside from the episode mentioned by the poster above me, the TV series Hulk NEVER spoke - and most of the The Hulk usually subconsciously continued with Banner's last thought (IE - Stop these bad guys/fix X situation (usually requiring his super strength)/save that person in distress; and even in the "Prometheus" episode, it was just that the Hulk was caught in mid-transition, so Banner's mind was still mostly in control and I agree that was the closest they came to representing the 'talking Hulk' of the Marvel comics.

    I was a big Marvel comics and Hulk fan when the series premiered; but I was very disappointed that they really did tone down his super strength (even then I understood the budget reasons for doing so); and I remember being VERY disappointed when the Hulk was shout and wounded by a normal bullet; and that they basically made him a near mindless brute without any real ability to speak.
     
  7. The Knappos

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    That bit where he threw the bear was hilarious tho
     
  8. Christopher

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    Well, of course they couldn't match it exactly; no comic ever did that, so it's just a question of whether they adopted some elements from the adaptation (like Shazam! adopting the RV but using Uncle Dudley in place of the show's Mentor). I was just thinking in terms of, say, adopting the angle of a hitchhiker wandering from town to town Fugitive-style, though it sounds like they were kind of doing that already. I'm also surprised they didn't adopt Jack McGee as a comics character.


    Yes. I sometimes wish they'd done an episode where some experimental cure let David keep his intellect in Hulk form, so Ferrigno could've spoken. Just for one episode, of course, until it inevitably wore off, but it would've been an interesting variation.


    Whereas I didn't read the comics, though I probably knew the Hulk from reruns of those barely animated '60s cartoons adapted from the comics. So I was able to enjoy the show without preconceptions.
     
  9. Noname Given

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    ^^^
    Then you pretty much were read early Hulk comics stories as the Grantray-Lawrence Animation studios animated Marvel cartoons of the 60s actually photocopied and used art from the actual comics of the time and pretty much did the stories almost verbatim.
     
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  10. Christopher

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    Ummmmm... I literally said "cartoons adapted from the comics" in the very paragraph you quoted. Read more closely.

    Anyway, I only saw those shows occasionally and they didn't leave as strong an impression as actually reading the comics on an ongoing basis would have done.
     
  11. Noname Given

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    Ummmmm... I literally said "cartoons adapted from the comics" in the very paragraph you quoted. Read more closely.

    Anyway, I only saw those shows occasionally and they didn't leave as strong an impression as actually reading the comics on an ongoing basis would have done.[/QUOTE]
    Well, you then claimed:

    So, I was replying that IF you saw those cartoons you DID effectively "read the comics". Seems it's you who are contradicting yourself in your own post there
     
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  12. Christopher

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    Already answered in my previous post. Stop trying to play gotcha games.
     
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    Michael Keaton once again opened up about why he decided not to do Batman Forever.

    https://variety.com/2022/film/news/michael-keaton-exited-batman-clashing-franchise-tone-1235146685/

     
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    Three likes for your a), b), and c). :)
     
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    IIRC, Shumacher was careful at the time to praise Keaton’s performance in Burton’s films; I remember him saying something like “I saw Val in Tombstone & thought he’d be a great Batman, but it didn’t occur to me that there’d be a vacancy, because Michael was so good in the role.”
     
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    Not to surprised, I was shocked he even came back for The Flash. From what I read over on Tor.com it at least sounds like he's getting to finish up the role with his favorite take on the character so far.
     
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    Keaton's?
     
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