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DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond

Good old Ray Fisher is at it again accusing Warner's of hiring Ta-Nehisi Coates to draw attention away from him.

It's truly impressive how he manages to be both right in regards to Whedon and an utter moron in every other respect.

Do you have a link? What is he saying?
 
You still expect to see a Cavill movie soon?
Cavill was a very popular choice to cast as Superman, so it would be in the studio's best interests to have him in the role again. That, and this latest development reads like an Elseworlds-type concept, so it would not prevent the DCEU which Cavill starred in from continuing.
 
Do you have a link? What is he saying?

https://deadline.com/2021/02/ray-fisher-tweets-complaint-warnermedia-responds-1234702582/

The implication by Fisher, who played “Cyborg” in the Justice League film, is that his complaints were ignored, and the new Coates alliance is a way to paper over Fisher’s outrage.

Fisher said:
“Do ya’ll remember that time Walter Hamada and @wbpictures tried to destroy a Black man’s credibility, and publicly delegitimize a very serious investigation, with lies in the press?” Fisher tweeted. “But hey, Black Superman…”
 
While Ray Fisher may be right about Joss Whedon, that doesn't stop him from being crazy. (Unfortunately for the world, crazy people are often right but that doesn't make them any less crazy.)

I mean, I too once worked for abusive sociopaths who were never held accountable for their misdeeds. It sucks and I will never stop complaining about it. But just because the other person is morally in the wrong doesn't give you unilateral authority to dictate what their consequences will or should be. The big difference between Ray Fisher & Charisma Carpenter is humility.

CARPENTER: Here are some specific abusive things that Joss Whedon said to and about me. I think it's important that people know what he did and think twice about working with someone like that in the future.
FISHER: Everyone that I don't like needs to be fired and never work again.

Abrams I'm fine with, since he's working with a decent writer and he's a huge step up from the last two directors that made movies with Superman.

I disagree. While some of Bryan Singer's X-Men movies have aged better than others, he deserves a lot of credit for revitalizing the superhero genre and Superman Returns is very underrated, if flawed. And while I have philosophical disagreements with Zack Snyder's take on Superman, I give him full credit for making movies that are always interesting and personal.

On the other hand, J.J. Abrams' movie career is almost entirely 2nd hand. His Star Wars movies were a hollow retread of the original trilogy but without the soul. His Star Trek movies were all about vandalizing the franchise in order to make it more like Star Wars. His one original movie, Super 8, is just an exercise in copying Steven Spielberg. It's like a refugee from a parallel universe where Spielberg made another alien movie after Close Encounters instead of doing 1941. The only movie that I can really say I liked was Mission Impossible III.

I've enjoyed most of JJ Abrams' stuff, but wasn't the script for his last Superman leaked? And it was... something.

Yeah. Krypton didn't explode but was just conquered by an evil tyrant named Ty-Zor. Lex Luthor was an alien-hunting FBI agent who ultimately turned out to be a Kryptonian himself. Superman died and Jor-El, somehow sensing this, killed himself so that he could commune with his son in the afterlife and talk him out of being dead.

Still not as bonkers as the Frank Miller/Darren Aronofsky version of Batman: Year One that was being developed around this time.
 
On the other hand, J.J. Abrams' movie career is almost entirely 2nd hand.

That's hardly a judgment of quality, nor is it particularly unusual, since there have always been plenty of movies that were adaptations or series installments. You could say the same of Zack Snyder, whose nine feature directing credits to date include one remake, one Dark Horse Comics adaptation, four DC Comics adaptations, one children's book adaptation, and two original films. Meanwhile, the Russo brothers' feature career to date is exclusively Marvel movies, and their first non-Marvel movie, coming out March 12, is a novel adaptation. So it feels like a cheap shot to use something as commonplace as this as a criticism of one person in particular.

Anyway, Abrams has produced a lot more films than he's directed, and as far as we know, he's only going to produce the new Superman project.
 
It's not just that he's adapting stuff but that he's aping a style. Abrams' style is just making movies that feel like old school Lucas & Spielberg movies but with no real understanding of why they're doing what they're doing. Whereas Snyder's movies, love him or hate him, always feel distinctly like Snyder movies.
 
It's not just that he's adapting stuff but that he's aping a style.

You and I see Abrams very differently. I think he has his own very distinct style. Mission: Impossible III was basically Alias: The Motion Picture, a continuation of the style and approach Abrams had established in his TV work. And the highlights of that style carry through into his other feature work that I've seen.
 
Not to beat a dead horse into the ground, especially in a thread like this, but The Force Awakens being a retread of the original 1977 Star Wars film (A New Hope) is not and never was an indication of JJ Abrams lacking creativity.
 
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