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Not really familiar with Hitchcock's record, but from what I've heard of what Kubrick did to that poor woman in the shining, he really shouldn't have ever been allowed to work again.
 
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Not really familiar with Hitchcock's record, but from what I've heard of what Kubrick did to that poor woman in the shining, he really shouldn't have ever been allowed to work again.
How about James Cameron on the set of the Abyss? I think its been generally accepted that as long as it brings the best performance out of the actors, any kind of behavior from the directors is acceptable.
 
Thing is it's been no secret for many years that she was fired for getting pregnant but people just ignored it, like they ignored his ex-wife when she talked about how he'd emotionally manipulate young actresses into having sex with him. Because he was Joss Whedon people were happy to look the other way.
 
How about James Cameron on the set of the Abyss? I think its been generally accepted that as long as it brings the best performance out of the actors, any kind of behavior from the directors is acceptable.

Didn't Ed Harris punch him in the face?

Cameron's lucky none of the actors he pulled that stuff on were petty enough to go after him for it. He worked with professionals who just did the job and didn't work with him later.
 
Thing is it's been no secret for many years that she was fired for getting pregnant but people just ignored it, like they ignored his ex-wife when she talked about how he'd emotionally manipulate young actresses into having sex with him. Because he was Joss Whedon people were happy to look the other way.
I have to admit, when his ex-wife's accusations first came out, and we didn't really see anybody backing her up, I blew it off as possibly just an angry ex lying, but it's starting seem a lot more believable now.
 
How about James Cameron on the set of the Abyss?
I know the production of The Abyss was quite hellish, but what did Cameron specifically do? Most of the stories I have read revolve around other factors, like the film running out during a particularly arduous take and a nasty moment when the safety diver accidentally put Ed Harris' breather in upside down.

It doesn't surprise me that Harris and Cameron would butt heads, they are both bullish and neither suffers fools lightly. By all accounts the production was physically and mentally taxing due to the long hours and spending so much time isolated in a crowd. (Underwater with nowhere to go.)

That's not to say Cameron isn't an asshole. Just that I hadn't heard of any stories about him being specifically awful on The Abyss.
 
I know the production of The Abyss was quite hellish, but what did Cameron specifically do? Most of the stories I have read revolve around other factors, like the film running out during a particularly arduous take and a nasty moment when the safety diver accidentally put Ed Harris' breather in upside down.

It doesn't surprise me that Harris and Cameron would butt heads, they are both bullish and neither suffers fools lightly. By all accounts the production was physically and mentally taxing due to the long hours and spending so much time isolated in a crowd. (Underwater with nowhere to go.)

That's not to say Cameron isn't an asshole. Just that I hadn't heard of any stories about him being specifically awful on The Abyss.
https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/the-a...ushed-boundaries-and-almost-killed-his-actors
 
That article repeats the same stories I just mentioned. (And also claims the "upside down regulator" story happened to Cameron rather than who it actually happened to, Ed Harris.) Cameron didn't make the film run out, or put in Ed Harris' regulator, or put too much chlorine in the water. He was the director on a production that was extremely not fun for a lot of the people involved. That makes him top dog and arguably responsible for the fuck-ups, but that's not the same thing as actively treating people like garbage.
 
So according to Miochelle Trachtenberg, Whedon wasn't allowed to be in a room with her by himself. Just to clear, she was 14 years old when she started working on the show.
 
So according to Miochelle Trachtenberg, Whedon wasn't allowed to be in a room with her by himself. Just to clear, she was 14 years old when she started working on the show.

I'm pretty sure that has nothing specifically to do with Joss and is just a legal requirement of using minor actors in film and television generally.
 
I'm pretty sure that has nothing specifically to do with Joss and is just a legal requirement of using minor actors in film and television generally.
The quote was "He's not allowed in a room alone with Michelle again." Note the 'again' at the end. If it were a general rule, it would have applied from the start. So there certainly happened something while Whedon was alone with her that resulted in said rule.

On a sidenote, considering this has now become not just about Whedon's behaviour on the JL set, but on "Buffy" and "Angel", too, maybe we should move this part of the discussion to a seperate thread. Probably not just DC fans around here interested in talking about this.
 
Thing is it's been no secret for many years that she was fired for getting pregnant but people just ignored it, like they ignored his ex-wife when she talked about how he'd emotionally manipulate young actresses into having sex with him. Because he was Joss Whedon people were happy to look the other way.

Typical of the entertainment business, and a couple of members of this board, who were still defending him in the past few weeks in the Fisher matter. As I've said elsewhere about Whedon's fate in the business, no one should ever expect integrity from a business that has encouraged, coddled and then ignored abuse of many varieties. I will not be surprised if he is granted a "tell all" interview as the platform to an apology / "I now know I cannot behave that way" BS tour, so certain studios can continue their relationship with him.
 
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