Two years, yeah.
DC Comics: Rebirth
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Two years, yeah.
Justice League #50 was a good ending to the Darkseid War, except for the way it basically reset everything to status quo.
Just read Rebirth and by some small miracle I managed to be unspoiled. I thought it was overly long and exposition heavy, but WOW! I did *NOT* see that ending coming! Totally blew my mind! Very curious to see where that goes.
So did
Just read Rebirth and by some small miracle I managed to be unspoiled. I thought it was overly long and exposition heavy, but WOW! I did *NOT* see that ending coming! Totally blew my mind! Very curious to see where that goes.
So did
Dr. Manhattan kill Pandora? Is HE the one that stole the decade of time?!
I actually appreciated the exposition since I have a large gap in my reading. I stopped reading sometime around 97 or 98 and didn't start reading again until the New 52.
Yes, Dr. Manhattan killed Pandora. Compare her discorporation to what Dr. Manhattan does to Rorschach at the end of Watchmen. It's a deliberate echo.
I think we're certainly supposed to think that Dr. Manhattan is responsible for the stolen time and the darkened DCU. That he's experimenting on the DCU for reasons unknown. Perhaps he's trying to understand human behavior. Perhaps he's trying to see what a world without hope looks like.
I think we're certainly supposed to think that Dr. Manhattan is responsible for the stolen time and the darkened DCU. That he's experimenting on the DCU for reasons unknown. Perhaps he's trying to understand human behavior. Perhaps he's trying to see what a world without hope looks like.
Except the Watchmen world is darker and has less hope then even the New 52. Outside of, I don't know, a world post nuclear war or zombie apocalypse, it would be hard to find a darker, more hopeless world then the one Manhattan already came from.
Unless he's trying to fix his world by figuring out why his world is so hopeless. If he takes away the hope of the DCU and sees how they cope, perhaps then he can understand what's missing from his own world.
I'm not really thinking of Dr. Manhattan as a villain, per se. More like an indifferent god, like the watchmaker god of the Deists, who sets things in motion but doesn't interfere. And I suspect that, whatever DC will build to in the next two years, will involve the heroes of the DCU investigating Dr. Manhattan (as they become aware of him) and, ultimately, trying to bring him to heel, make him accept responsibility for what he's done, and revert his meddling.
Given Geoff Johns' interests, Krona throwing down with Dr. Manhattan may be where things are heading.
I'm not really thinking of Dr. Manhattan as a villain, per se. More like an indifferent god, like the watchmaker god of the Deists, who sets things in motion but doesn't interfere. And I suspect that, whatever DC will build to in the next two years, will involve the heroes of the DCU investigating Dr. Manhattan (as they become aware of him) and, ultimately, trying to bring him to heel, make him accept responsibility for what he's done, and revert his meddling.
Given Geoff Johns' interests, Krona throwing down with Dr. Manhattan may be where things are heading.
they refereed to him as Jason right? my first thought was Jason Blood...but i kinda doubt they would go with that. i do wonder if he is an existing character or if its someone that has yet to be introduced.
Yeah, I can see that. It could be an interesting way of doing things. If done right, it could be interesting, and I say that as someone who doesn't like the Watchmen comic.
Back when I was a kid ( in the 1960) there was strip in DC's Showcase title called "Jason's Quest", about a young man's search for his long lost sister. Not a superhero book, but it was the first thing that popped in my head when I heard the name "Jason" .
Personally I think he's just trying to undo Crisis On Infinite Earths, I mean it is kind of interesting how the New 52 reboot put the JLA, JSA, and Crime Syndicate back on the Earths they all started on. Besides Manhattan can't be behind the DCverse darkening since its been doing that since late 80s, long before the New 52 reboot.
This Watchmen tie-in is really blowing my mind. I never saw this coming in a million years, and I'm really glad I was unspoiled on it. Obviously it's going to taint the legacy of the original classic, but I'm still dying to see where the story goes. I never read that big batch of "Before Watchmen" series a couple years ago, they don't have anything to do with this do they?
How did the universe in Rebirth come to be? That's the only part I'm a little fuzzy on because it's no longer the new 52, right? Or is it?
I liked the book a lot. Does anyone know exactly where the main storyline is next picked up on? I don't imagine it's simply in the individual solo books.
I haven't read comics in years, but I keep up with the major plot points going on through these threads. I wonder if...
Also, what's the state of Tim Drake in the comics currently? He was always my Robin with Dick Grayson matured into Nightwing.
The Watchmen characters will get to interact with their Charleton hero counter parts. Captain Atom vs Dr Manhattan, Blue Beetle meets the Owl,etc...
Also, what's the state of Tim Drake in the comics currently? He was always my Robin with Dick Grayson matured into Nightwing.
He's Red Robin. His origin is different. He was never Robin, he chose to be "Red Robin" from the start. He didn't become Batman's sidekick by guessing Batman's identity like he did pre-reboot. In the New 52, he tried to guess Batman's identity , but got it completely wrong and Batman rejected him. So, he hacked penguin's bank account to prove his skills, which lead to Penguin attacking him and his family. Batman saved them, Tim's parent's went into witness protection, and Batman took him as a sidekick until they had a falling out. Also, Drake is the name witness protection gave his family, so his birth name isn't even Tim Drake. Right now he's teamed with the Teen Titans (at least currently, rebirth might change that).
Rebirth has deposited him in Detective Comics, part of a team being trained by Batman and Batwoman, along with Cass Cain, Spoiler and Clayface. His time as Robin appears to have been restored, given that his new Red Robin costume is just his original Robin suit with a double R logo. Though we won't know for sure how they're handling that until the book actually starts shipping. I'm thinking about trying it, but I'm hesitant because I've not enjoyed anything from that writer (James Tynion) thus far.
Why not? Manhattan has been around since the '80s too. 
i hadn't thought of that. would be a really interesting encounter.