DC Comics: Rebirth

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  1. theenglish

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    MINOR SPOILERS

    As predicted, Geoff Johns is heavily involved and the Rebirth idea will be similar in spirit to the previous Rebirth series. An item of note is that Action and Detective comics will be returning to their original numbering (something else we predicted would happen in 2011) but continuing from 957 and 934 so that the previous 52 issues are now included in the original numbering structure. It seems that the point of the Rebirth is to bring back the legacy characters and restore a sense of history to the DCU.

    The relevant articles are:

    http://www.comicbookresources.com/a...h-plan-seeks-to-restore-legacy-to-dc-universe

    http://www.comicbookresources.com/a...-line-twice-monthly-books-lowered-price-point
     
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  2. Mr Light

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    I'm delighted to hear this. I absolutely loved DC Comics in the 2000s, mainly due to Geoff Johns. I've been really unhappy with the New 52 continuity in a lot of ways, and at this point I'm just down to reading Batman and Justice League really. Reading this interview, it sounds like Johns is acknowledging that they made a mistake and that they need to bring back the legacy (that's the most important word) and the continuity of the franchise's history. It sounds like they basically have been short-shifting the comics for the past several years while they've been focusing on tv/movies. I'm glad to hear there's actually going to be continuity again, instead of the way it is now where the Batman and Justice League books just seem to be taking place in completely different worlds. Not to mention the JLA Book.
     
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  3. kirk55555

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    I read the interview with Johns on CBR, and Rebirth definitely has me interested. I really want DC to be "reborn" and have something approaching its pre-New 52 quality. I doubt we'll see it get that good as long as Didio and the other people in charge retain their positions, but maybe DC will surprise everyone. I'll probably read 99% of the stuff they release for Rebirth, and hope we get some good stuff. Maybe DC can start letting writers actually write the books without messing with them and stop letting the editors bully the writers while controlling the books worse then meddling studio executives screw up some movies. That would probably lead to a big quality increase even with Didio & friends still in charge. It won't bring back the good writers they pushed out with their idocy, but a better environment behind the scenes can only help DC comics.

    Anyway, I'll be cautiously hopeful that we get some good stuff, and its not worthless hype leading to a pointless renumbering.
     
  4. Kai "the spy"

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    I'm intrigued, but not convinced just yet. I'll give 'em a chance to win me over.

    Anyway, with a lot of those twice-monthly titles I have to doubt they'll stay twice-monthly for long.

    Also, I'm curious to see what some of those new books are about, especially "The Super-Man", "Superwoman", and "Super Sons."
     
  5. Nerys Myk

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    The Super-Man might be the pre-52 Superman. The Super Sons, Damian Wayne and.... Kon -El? Jon Kent? Superwoman, Power Girl?
     
  6. Icemizer

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    Very happy with the $2.99 price point. Like the 52 I will probably start with everything and weed out as things go along. I will go with Deathstroke or Trinity as first books cancelled, unless Blue Beetle is not Ted Kord then that goes first.
     
  7. theenglish

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    The Rebirth angle could very well focus on Ted Kord--kind of a sequel to the giant size book in which he died. It would be neat to have Jaime and Ted in the same universe.
     
  8. Kai "the spy"

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    Good guesses. We'll see.

    Also glad about the $ 2.99 price point. Especially with so many books going bi-weekly.
     
  9. theenglish

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    Definitely. It will be interesting to see how long they stay bi-weekly but it will bring down the number of different titles I buy.

    One thing I'm disappointed in, and I hope we'll still see it, is a new LSH series.
     
  10. Kai "the spy"

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    I didn't notice that before. That is rather disappointing.
     
  11. Saga

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    i hope the Nightwing book features Dick Grayson. i hope Wonder Woman has a new creative team. actually, i hope these books have all new creative teams. no Dan Jurgens or Scott Lobdell please. otherwise this whole Rebirth this is a waste of time.
     
  12. Guy Gardener

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    Bastardos!

    Good lord if I still tallied my comics with hand drawn blue ink check off grids in a school text book I would be furious.
     
  13. Savage Dragon

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    I'm of two minds about this news.

    I stopped reading comics around 1997 and decided to try DC out again when they launched the New 52. On the one hand I kind of enjoyed seeing a different take on Superman and I was enjoying reading about his new relationship with Wonder Woman. On the other hand I still missed the relationship he had with Lois, and this was really brought home to me when I realized how much I was digging the New Lois and Clark comic. If they do bring back the pre-New 52 Superman I'll be a little disappointed that we didn't get to see the evolution of this new Superman a little more. I was hoping they would play with the Wonder Woman/Superman relationship a little more before slowly easing into a Superman/Lois relationship again. Ah well, if nothing else this will be a way for them to put his secret identity back in the bag.

    A few other changes I enjoyed was the Azzarello and Chiang run on Wonder Woman, and what was done with Grayson. I was never a big Nightwing fan but I have really been enjoying Grayson.

    I'm not too crazy about the idea of all the books they will have shipping twice a month. It means they won't have a steady artist on these books and that always kind of bugs me, and it also means spending more money. I'll have to think long and hard about which books I will be willing to continue pick up.

    Other than that I look forward to seeing what they do with this Rebirth scenario. I just wish they wouldn't relaunch with all new #1 issues again. At least they are reverting to the original numbering on Action Comics and Detective Comics.
     
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  14. theenglish

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    I really enjoyed the new 52 for the first couple of years and then all the titles I really liked got cancelled or writers I liked moved off the books. I also really liked the attempt to keep a unified universe. Sometime in the second year that completely fell apart though. I also wished there were a couple of series --Superman and Justice League in particular--that tried to fill in those missing five years.

    It seems though, that Johns is intent on keeping the current new 52 universe setting, but reintroducing some of the older elements--if anybody can pull that off, it would be him.
     
  15. M'rk son of Mogh

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    Good to be a bat fan. Sucks if you're a fan of (many) of the B and C listers. Understandable, it's a business.
     
  16. JD

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    I'm curious how they plan to continue The New 52 Universe, but also bring back older elements. Is this going to be some kind of mash-up of the pre-New 52 and New 52?
     
  17. Savage Dragon

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    Maybe they'll take a page from Marvel's most recent Secret Wars.
     
  18. davejames

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    I have no problem with bringing back the old versions of characters or whatever they're doing, but if they really want old readers like me to come back, they need to keep the books a bit more self-contained and not have all these dumb "event" stories (H'el on Earth, Throne of Atlantis, Forever Evil, Convergence, etc) that require you to keep up with a dozen other titles in order to follow the story.

    Because that's when they lose me every time. And the same thing happened with the new Marvel SW titles when they all started crossing over. And I was also really enjoying the Miles Morales Spidey as well a few years ago, until suddenly some weird civil war storyline popped up out of nowhere and I finally had to give up on it.

    Ugh, it's freakin annoying.
     
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  19. Guy Gardener

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    The universe is not being rebooted.

    The New 52 and DCYou are intact.

    They're just going to apologist no prize us by claiming that some shit had always been there but never really focused on or mentioned.

    It's like in X-Men comics when they go through a wild fucked up ride for years at secret bases, Austrailia and other dimensions or Asteroid M turned into an islands in San Francisco bay... How'd we wind up back at this bloody mansion again?

    They want the classic stories they liked as kids, but with more violence almost swearing, and much, much, much better art.

    Everyone is going to return to their first positions.

    (Is that ballet language?)

    Into the most basic stories, that the man on the street, who hasn't read any of these books since they were 8, still assumes that these stories are all about.

    Archetypal stories.
     
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  20. theenglish

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    I would appreciate some deal where if you subscribe or buy a certain amount of comics a month, you can get digital rights to read the other elements in these big stories. I read all my comics digitally these days and would really like it if I buy ten titles a month I can read, at least online, the tie-ins to those comics.
     
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