DC Comics: Rebirth

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by theenglish, Feb 18, 2016.

  1. Guy Gardener

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    On a whim, I took a look at some Batman books after a ten year hiatus.

    Selena and Bruce engaged!

    Time Drake, Batman of the Future, willing to break spines (not an actual example) to fix the past.
    :)

    Not bad.

    Seriously!?

    Ariel Fricking Winter was Robin in Dark Knight Returns?
     
  2. Ron Nasty

    Ron Nasty Piggy in the middle Premium Member

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    He did Invaders first. He created them in 1975 (Or 1969, if you count an Avengers story set in WWII). The All-Star Squadron debuted in 1981.
     
  3. Hound of UIster

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    I am referring to the second Invaders volume (aka the mini) which was published in 92 and which apparently is still not well received going by more recent retro-reviews.
     
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  4. Ron Nasty

    Ron Nasty Piggy in the middle Premium Member

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    I had forgotten that even existed. :lol:
     
  5. shivkala

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    I say pair Bendis with an artist who's constantly late. That way, Bendis can use his "deconstructed" approach. I just remember reading early Ultimate Spider-Man issues to find the same panel art being used for most of the page.

    The 1990's/early 2000's Justice Society was great stuff. I loved it all.

    It was better than Infinity Inc. where the scripts were so boring, McFarlane took to doodling the characters holding up panels just to get through his job as artist (I swear I read that once, but I can't find the source).
     
  6. Mike Farley

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    For those that read digitally, there's a massive DC collected editions sale on Comixology. 1600+ trades at $4.99 each.
     
  7. Ovation

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    Thanks for lightening my wallet. :)
     
  8. Mike Farley

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    I'm hoping Didio gives me a commission.
     
  9. JD

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    Of course they are doing it right after I swore I'd stop buying books and comics. According to my Goodreads account I have over 300 unread books and comics, and I'm trying not to add any more.
     
  10. Ovation

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    300? Pfft. Amateur. I’m easily into 4 digits. (To be fair, I do get a fair number of free books from publishers who want me to use them in my classes AND I’m in the middle of a PhD in history where massive piles of books are part of the landscape). ;)
     
  11. JD

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    Most of mine are ones I got cheap on sale. I have a hard time resisting when they are marked down to a fraction of their usual price.
     
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  12. Ovation

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    Same goes for mine. In forty years I’ve managed to accumulate something like 5000 books (not counting comics—probably another 3500 there). If I’d paid full pop for all of them, I’d have far fewer (or I’d be rather wealthier than I am).
     
  13. Allyn Gibson

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    It wasn't quite warm enough, even with my coat on, to sit outside and read, but I did anyway, and read DC Entertainment's Doomsday Clock #1, though my fingers were close to numb by the time I finished.

    Doomsday Clock is fine, and probably more than adequate as a sequel to Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons' Watchmen. It's well-made and poses some questions that Geoff Johns will inevitably hammer to death. It's hard to say where this will go or how, exactly, a sequel to Watchmen connects to Clark Kent's nightmare about the deaths of Jonathan and Martha Kent at this point, but there are 11 more issues for Geoff Johns and Gary Frank to delve into these.

    My hunch at the moment... Adrian is desperate to find Dr. Manhattan, with the world at the brink of nuclear annihilation after the collapse of Pax Ozymandias, because it will take a god to save the world from itself. My hunch is that what Adrian and his allies find will be an entirely different god-like being -- Superman. The point may be that the reason Earth-Watchmen is so bleak is that it is literally a World Without a Superman; they've never had Superman's example, borrowing from Grant Morrison and Zack Synder here, "to lead them into the light." The plot may well revolve around the existence of a Kal-El on Earth-Watchmen, probably a child or teen, and whose example he will follow -- Dr. Manhattan's cold indifference to humanity or Superman's deep compassion for humanity.

    Also, I hope that the teaser image of Lex Luthor with Ozymandias' hand on his shoulder doesn't mean that Johns is undoing (or radically altering) the character work that's been done with Lex since Forever Evil. I like what DC has done with Lex, turning him into, essentially, Iron Man. I don't need Lex as a super-villain any more. He's much more interesting now than he's been since the late 80s/early 90s.
     
  14. M'rk son of Mogh

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    That's a good guess as to where it might go, I kind of like it if it does, actually. A world with supermen but not THE Superman to guide them...

    Well, that could also be called Marvel or Image or Valiant, but for the sake of this story they're telling, it sounds promising.

    (Also, let's not give Zack Snyder credit for something Marlon Brando said decades before, please :techman: )
     
  15. The Grimsman

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    Fuck no.

    The only reason we associate the JSA with WW2 is because of the 80's series All Star Squardron. That's it. When I read those old JSA / JLA team ups as a kid in the 70's, it didn't occur to me that they were around in WW2 because the writers didn't reference it, nor were they as hung up about it as fans today. Because they didn't place any special attachment to that time period and didn't constantly re-enforce the idea of the JSA as a war time group. In those comics, the JSA was roughly about a decade older than their JLA counterparts....they were about 40 years old to the JLA's thirty years old, and they had come out of retirement to have adventures on their Earth not too different from the adventures the JLA was having. We need to get back to that. It's the one element that I liked about the recent Earth-2 comic....that it made the JSA younger and ditched the old codgers as superheroes thing that they had become.

    We don't demand that the JLA or the Doom Patrol be associated with the 60's, or the New Gods with the 70's, and these characters and concepts never feel dated or old because of that. I enjoyed All Star Squadron in the 80's and it was one of my favorite books of the era, but frankly I've gotten sick and tired of it's pervasive legacy of the JSA as nothing without WW2.

    Yeah, All Star Squadron was one of my favorite books because I loved Earth-Two more than Earth-One. I still remember reading my first JSA / JLA crossover in the 70's. It blew my fucking mind as it introduced me to the whole "parallel world" concept. It was also my introduction to the JSA, who I was fascinated with as a kid. It blew my mind that there was another Flash, Green Lantern, Hawkman, Atom, etc who looked different from the versions I was familiar with. I could tell that they were older than the versions I was used to. All Star Squadron, with it's focus squarely set in the world of Earth-Two, was a godsend.

    The post-Crisis years were a bitch for us JSA fans. It was a long road to get the JSA out of limbo, to Golden Age to Starman and finally to their own book. I was happy with the legacy heroes, but I still prefer to have the original JSA back to being a few years older than the JLA, and operating in contemporary times on an alternate Earth. But it's long past the time to divorce them from WW2.
     
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  16. Guy Gardener

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    Superman needs to go back to Cleveland. :)
     
  17. JD

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  18. Overlord

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    It's been a long time since I checked in but I just got the last two weeks of comics delivered and noticed DC's new look. What do you guys think? I found myself immediately liking it.
     
  19. JD

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    The new logo design? I like it.
     
  20. JD

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