Teschmacher, as Luthor's trophy wife, who is much more intelligent and devious than she lets on would be a good character.
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Teschmacher, as Luthor's trophy wife, who is much more intelligent and devious than she lets on would be a good character.
Except that was Lorelei Ambrosia in Superman III.
LOL--I forgot about that. The character who was actually Teschmacher.
Just a cursory search at YouTube comes up with about thirty first time reaction videos to 'Superman The Movie'; the majority of which are Millennials - looking through the comments in some of them show that the comments are coming from adults who saw the movie as a child in the theatre or on television; so, this is a movie that is still having an impact nearly fifty years after its release and people have latched on to the depiction of these characters.
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My kids (almost adults) think that Christopher Reeve does the best Clark Kent and Superman even though they find other elements of the movies dated. They say that Reeve is the only actor they've seen who plays Kent and Superman as two different people and it is believable that he could fool others. (They haven't seen George Reeves, mind you.)
Am I the only one wondering if this crash scene is going to be the introduction of the entire Daily Planet supporting cast?
Am I the only one wondering if this crash scene is going to be the introduction of the entire Daily Planet supporting cast?
I've watched several of those and these young folks all seem delighted and enchanted with the film. I'm hopeful that Gunn will live up to the promise and hubris of his film's title, and that Superman '25 will prove as definitive a cinematic portrayal of the character for the coming decades as Superman '78 has been ever since its release.
I'm from 1982, so the Reeve movies were a big part of my childhood. And yes, he sold the completely two different characters. But yes, because of how dated the rest of the movie has become, it's difficult for me to call it my favorite, or 'the best' Superman movie. For me, that hasn't been made yet. I loved Man Of Steel, and it comes closer for me personally. Same goes for Superman Returns. All have three movies have critical elements that could together form the best Superman movie.
No, Lorelei was completely different from Eve. Eve was just a fairly ordinary gun-moll type, a woman of no more than average intelligence and ability whom Lex kept around implicitly as a sexual companion, and who was no more or less than she appeared to be. Lorelei was a genius who concealed her intellect behind a caricature of a brainless sexpot. Eve could keep no secrets from her employer, since she was basically forthright and guileless. Lorelei had nothing but secrets. More, Lorelei was a satirical deconstruction of the sexy-moll type that the previous films had played straight with Eve.
Just because two characters are in equivalent roles, that doesn't make them the same character. Ross Webster was in the same villain role in Superman III that Luthor had been in the first two, but Webster was a far more credible Lex Luthor than the movies' Lex Luthor was -- indeed, he foreshadowed the later reinvention of Luthor as a corporate executive.
I don't think George Reeves played Clark and Superman differently in the slightest. Now, Bud Collyer on radio was the archetype -- his natural voice was close to Superman's, but he raised it a full octave to play Clark, and made it sound natural. (Beau Weaver in the 1988 Ruby-Spears Superman animated series also raised his voice an octave for Clark, but it sounded more artificial.)
Ultraman? I guess that makes him one to shuwatch!
So now we've got S, T, and U logos in the same sequence. Are we heading for an unexpected V for Vendetta crossover? After which Wonder Woman shows up, followed by the X-Men?
The film was okay, with the Smallville chapter (and to a lesser degree, Krypton) being the best, but in no way is it some perfect representation of the character, comic, and as you point out, the film is dated--even more than many regular, non-fantasy productions that were very much of their 70s era. Of course, there's another, unforgivable element of the film explored in this--or the other Superman thread (I believe) by others, which forever sets this film in a bad light.
The strongest, single comic adaptation from that decade was The Incredible Hulk pilot movie (1977), which set the stage and standard for merging a fantastic concept with real world subjects / realistic characterizations. For my money, its the far and away best Hulk adaptation to date.
Same here. If a Superman ever appeared in the real world, Man of Steel is as close as one could imagine that happening, with Clark's journey to find himself in a world not his own (and not just leaping to be a superhero "just because") paying off in an unforgettable, grand manner when he finally becomes Superman.
Well, look, the Superman '78 vs. Man of Steel debate has been ongoing for more than a decade now. It's beyond played out. And anyway, there is obviously only one correct answer, but people have their agendas, so whatever. 
One of the many things to look forward to (?) about Superman '25 is that we can finally have a brand-new era of the Great Cinematic Superman Wars, with whole new arguments for fans to recycle ad nauseam.
One of the many things to look forward to (?) about Superman '25 is that we can finally have a brand-new era of the Great Cinematic Superman Wars, with whole new arguments for fans to recycle ad nauseam.
I only know her from the 78 movie so I'm looking forward to her character. Never read the comics.
I found this comment in one of the Superman '78 reaction videos and I think it sums up perfectly why Christopher Reeve's interpretation of Clark Kent/Superman still resonates with people nearly fifty years later.
"The reason Christopher Reeve is the best Superman is because he based his entire performance on the line "A friend". He played it as Superman is everyone's friend, he just wants to help. He's not a savior, he's not a god, he's a good man who happens to have the power to help his friends. There's a genuine goodness that comes through, and it is very inspiring."
"The reason Christopher Reeve is the best Superman is because he based his entire performance on the line "A friend". He played it as Superman is everyone's friend, he just wants to help. He's not a savior, he's not a god, he's a good man who happens to have the power to help his friends. There's a genuine goodness that comes through, and it is very inspiring."
Wait, that was invented for the '78 movie? That's shocking.
Most famously mid sentence "This looks like a job...for Superman".
I think so, yes. Originally, Lois was a "girl reporter" pushing against the glass ceiling and struggling to prove she could cover hard news instead of just flower shows and fashion, with Clark cheerfully using his superpowers to cheat her out of scoops and keep her beneath the heel of the patriarchy. In the '50s show, she was at the Planet before Clark, but she was just a reporter there, not some award-winning superstar. By the 70s, she got treated more equally, but Clark was the big successful star reporter, the one who got promoted to TV anchor when Galaxy Broadcasting bought the paper. I'm pretty sure the movie was the first time Lois was portrayed as a celebrated, award-winning journalist that the novice Clark had to try to catch up with -- which John Byrne then emulated in his post-Crisis reboot, with Lois and Clark and Superman: TAS following suit, and it's been the default ever since.
Other than a small handful of the films? No. But I certainly have seen a freightload of online bitching that they're too comedic -- particularly from Z*ck Sn*d*r stans, who frown fiercely on such things.
But I mean, if you're not opposed to funny in superhero movies in general, and just didn't enjoy Superman '78's humor in specific -- that's a subjective perception to which you're completely entitled, inexplicable though my own tastes may find it.
I mean, I've definitely come to think they're trying too hard to be funny anymore (looking at you, Thor: Love and Thunder), but they took pop culture by storm for a reason. The first two Captain America movies in particular convinced me that Superman - the classic, explicitly positive, fundamentally decent Superman - could work in today's culture.
And of course, Gunn's Guardians of the Galaxy movies and at least the first Iron Man.
"Trumps" goes too far, IMO, but Hoechlin is unquestionably great, and certainly the best live-action Superman this century (so far). In the long history of live-action versions, I'd personally place him a solid third, following Reeve and Reeves. I've loved him in the role from his very first scene on Supergirl.
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