Spoilers DC’s Legends of Tomorrow Season 6

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  1. John Clark

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    I'd recommend Graceland too (We also typically watch The Coroner too)
     
  2. Caretaker

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    Was this episode ("Bad Blood") the first confirmation that the audience has received that Earth-Prime has a JSA in it's history? It may be one of the things that was retained from Earth-1.

    I kind of wish I knew where they were going with John Constantine, but this is the first episode I've truly liked the character of Spooner. This episode was very Raiders of the Lost Fountain or John Constantine and the Last Crusade. At first when he took the potion, and the green effects started, I was wondering if they were doing something Spectre-ish.
     
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    We’re they using clips from the Constantine tv show there? Would be interesting if all their tampering actually made that show canon.
     
  4. Christopher

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    Altered a bit, though, since the Earth-1 JSA was a secret, whereas here there's a comic book about them (a year or two earlier than the JSA comics debut in real life).


    Constantine has always been Arrowverse canon, and they've used footage from it before, in flashbacks to Constantine's failure to save Astra's soul. The actress who played Astra in the NBC series returned to do her voice in a Legends episode, and they've stayed true to the TV show's depiction of her as African-American. There have been other subtle nods, e.g. Constantine mentioning that the Jim Corrigan who appeared in Crisis was not the same one he knew. They haven't been able to make too many explicit references to the NBC show, but the intent has always been that it's in the same continuity.


    EDIT: Also... Did we just see the origin of Bigfoot?
     
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    I noticed in the preview for the next episode that Nic Bishop is back for the third time playing a different character. What’s going on?
     
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    I thought this was the show's weakest episode in a long while.

    Most likely because I could never bring myself to care about Constantine.
     
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    This last episode was pretty good. Spooner and Constantine were a pretty good pair, and the stuff wit Mick and his daughter was pretty good too.
    This one was also educational for me, well.... as education as an episode of Legends can be, since I had never even heard of the Spanish Civil War before it.
    I wonder how long Zari 1.0 will stick around before she switches places with 2.0 again?
    Had we seen Vampires in the Arrowverse before last night?
     
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    Had kind of a Doctor Who vibe.
     
  9. Christopher

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    Whereas I thought it was interesting how much this felt like a Constantine episode, really getting deeply into how troubled and screwed up he is and taking him to a darker place than he's been in a while. It's kind of incongruous having him in a comical show like Legends, but I also kind of like the contrast, the texture it gives the series.


    Yes, but only on a parallel Earth -- a Flash episode established that Breacher had fought vampires. Other references up to now have been ambiguous. https://arrow.fandom.com/wiki/Vampires
     
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  10. Commander Troi

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    Thank you.
     
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    Two big pieces of news from Comic-Con.

    Constantine is leaving the show because of the upcoming HBO Max series, but since this is Legends Matt Ryan is sticking around but will play a new character; Gwyn Davies. (Which suggests he'll get to use his real accent for the part.)

    And the other, long awaited (by me anyway) news is that Amy Louise Pemberton will be playing live-action Gideon as a full-time character.

    https://deadline.com/2021/07/legend...mberton-gideon-season-7-comic-con-1234799209/
     
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    We also got a new trailer:

    So as a lot of us suspected, Bishop will be coming back. It also looks like this new magic Constantine is getting from the stuff he got from the vampire is taking him to a pretty dark place. The characters tripping on mushrooms definitely seems appropriate to Legends.

    EW's article about the panel goes into a bit more detail of what to expect next season. The Legends are going to lose the access to time travel, and that is apparently where Gwyn Davies comes in. I'm curious how they're going to explain him looking like Constantine.
    I'm wondering if perhaps this "flesh and blood Gideon" is going to be a real person in the era they end up who was the basis for the AI.
     
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    Toronto to Vancouver.

    A four hour plane flight.
     
  14. StCoop

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    I do find it odd that DC can have four live-action Batmen at the same time but can't have two Constantines.

    Anyway, here's the script cover page for 07.02

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    Four? I presume you're counting Pattinson, Affleck, and Keaton, but who's the fourth? There is no active live-action Batman on TV, just a couple of Bruce Waynes (Iain Glen and Warren Christie) who never actually appear in costume. That's the way it goes -- the TV continuities yield to the cinematic character, because the latter can make the studio more money and they don't want the TV shows getting in its way. In this case, I assume the same goes for HBO Max vs. The CW.

    Honestly, I can see the logic of bringing Constantine's arc on Legends to an end, independently of any external considerations. Having him around has kind of warped the storytelling to focus heavily on magic rather than time travel, and this season when they're back to more sci-fi stuff, it's become harder to justify having him around. He's basically had his own separate story arc that only occasionally overlaps with the Legends. So that suggests it's time for him to move on and go back to his loner existence. Although I kind of would've preferred to see Ryan go back to a revived Constantine solo series.
     
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    Such a strange path Matt Ryan has had with that character. The only one I can think of that is similar is Halloween and Jamie Lee Curtis' Laurie Strode character in and out of various continuities.
     
  17. Christopher

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    Hmm... not sure it's quite the same, but Adam West played Batman in: the 1966 live-action series; the 1977 Filmation animated series; the last two seasons of Hanna-Barbera's Super Friends franchise; and the two recent animated movies that were approximate continuations of the 1966 series. (And Burt Ward played Robin in all but the third of those, plus implicitly in Crisis on Infinite Earths Part 1. Meanwhile, Olan Soule and Casey Kasem played Batman & Robin in Filmation's 1968 animated series and then in Super Friends for H-B in the '70s, and Kasem played Robin opposite West's Batman in those last two Super Friends seasons.)

    Although Ryan has played Constantine in only two continuities, one live-action and one animated. The Arrowverse retroactively absorbed Constantine, and the animated City of Demons webseries/movie is in the same continuity as the animated Justice League Dark.
     
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    On Instagram, Caitz Lotz announced that she is prepping to direct the show's 100th episode (which, if I read an episode list correctly will be the third episode of the upcoming season).
     
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    I have mixed feelings about this. Matt Ryan is so freaking *perfect* as Constantine, I have a hard time imagining anyone else playing him. But, I am happy we aren't losing Matt from the show.

    I am really looking forward to seeing how they do this with Gideon and if they'll ever explain why she's also in Thawne's secret room in The Flash.
     
  20. Christopher

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    The Flash explained early on that the future Barry Allen created Gideon, and I guess Thawne brought a copy back with him. I figure that Gideon is just a future equivalent of Siri, so there are multiple copies. And they have customizable faces and voices.