No we don't. I love that show but I admit that some franchise fans dislike and even deride it, many using the same complaints and dislikes they had from early on or the beginning. Likewise with DS9. TWoK seems like nearly the only film or series that had a lot of hesitancy among the fans going in and was able to win over nearly all of them.
David Mack is GUSHING about it...this should settle it
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No we don't. I love that show but I admit that some franchise fans dislike and even deride it, many using the same complaints and dislikes they had from early on or the beginning. Likewise with DS9. TWoK seems like nearly the only film or series that had a lot of hesitancy among the fans going in and was able to win over nearly all of them.
Yep! Consider those words eaten.So much for giving it a miss, eh?
I watched the first part and decided my misgivings about content were moot. But if I ever have insomnia, I can replay any of T'Kuvma's soliloquies.
Do you mean the NCC-1701? Because there's nothing in canon to suggest that it was the flagship, particularly during this era. In fact, one of the ships we do see, the Europa, is a far better candiate for (the local) flagship.
I rather wanted star ship Discovery to feature. I've been reading everyone's comments and am wondering did I miss it?
Wouldn't it be the flagship if an Admiral is in command, and as far as we know was the only ship-commanding Admiral during the battle?
Yeah, the Enterprise wasn't the "Federation flagship" during TOS. That was something made up for TNG.
More accurately, if an Admiral is aboard. Admirals rarely command ships, when they are aboard the ship, the ship is just their base of operations as they handle their greater responsibilities, in this case command of the fleet we saw in the episode. The Admiral would actually have very little authority over internal operations of the Europa, that would be the responsibility of the ship's captain and crew.
I had no issue watching him get it, too bad the Europa had to go as well. More of Klingons mumbling about honor and then doing the least honorable thing possible. Offering a truce and then sneak attacking under a cloak.
T'Whothehellcares should have beamed aboard and stabbed him or something. Made the death honorable.
You win for that alone.
What an original idea, I'm sure that's never been done before.
I was going to reference Enemy Mine, but knew there were earlier examples.
Oh! And they can speak in metaphor!What an original idea, I'm sure that's never been done before.
(nah, that wouldn't work)
An entire episode of Tamarians conversing in phrases like "Darmok and Jilad at Tenagra" "Hoo-Sani and his army at Lakshmir" "Shaka, when the walls fell." and so on would be less excruciating than Discovery's Klingon scenes have been.
Better yet, the Tamarians singing Shaka Khan!
The ponderous Klingon sequences had me headed toward "Zinda, his face black, his eyes red", but the rest of the episode led me to my position now of "Mirab, with sails unfurled".
Anyone who never heard of him before this thread? Not that I was arguing with his opinion. It simply carried no weight with me.
