Iron Man made 300 million bucks at the box office and I doubt most of the people who went to see that film had any idea who Pepper Potts or The Iron Monger were.
David Goyer Teases the Next Batman Film!
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This is absolutely correct. Remember the end of Begins, when Batman flipped over the card the the Joker was revealed? The audience went nuts, a reaction that was echoed in theaters all across the country. People weren't saying "Holy shit there's going to be another Batman movie!" They were saying "Holy shit it's THE JOKER!" And this was long before Heath Ledger was cast. It's the villain, baby.
Name recognition and expectations are everything. Batman-and-Joker bring immediate expectations. Batman-and-Catwoman bring immediate expectations. Batman-and-Talia bring "Who the hell is that?"
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And then we hear all these JOLIE rumors shopping for a catsuit...But I don't see Catwoman as a threat. CLAYFACE would be an interesting villain and he does have an interesting past (but maybe too much like Spidey's Sandman)
Maybe they could say Joker is dead and that HarlyQuin, a nut herself, comes to get revenge...
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Catwoman isn't really much of a main villain. She's a side villain, or troublesome ally/foil at her best.
or Iron Man for that matter. You wouldn't believe the amount of posts I read that usually started out like this
"I know nothing about Iron man but it looks cool"
"I've read one comic about Iron Man etc"
Agreed. Bruce and Selina work best together as uneasy allies.
Catwoman is an annoyance to Bruce at most who has the potential to become a serious threat. I think he recognizes how dangerous she can be and that is the reason he's always cautious around her. Again, remember what Ra's al Ghul taught us all about perception and deception? Catwoman is a highly recognizable name no doubt about that...and I agree that the films have been about Batman and his war on crime. The rouges gallery are apart of that war though...not just comic book fans are familar with them either, although I will agree that not all of them are well known as maybe Joker, Two-Face, Penguin, Riddler, Mr. Freeze, etc. I love Long Halloween and Dark Victory so much because they play up the antagonistic roles Batman and Catwoman have towards each other very well as well as explore that romantic interest as well.
Agreed. Or else Toby Jones, who played the other Truman Capote in recent years.
I'm taking the Depp as the Riddler with a huge pinch of salt for now, but there's no doubt that he could do a brilliant job in the role. He could quite easily do a Gorshin/ Carrey type scenery-chewing version or he could just as easily pull off something totally different and entirely unpredictable.
That said, I still want to see David Hyde Pierce as a smug, creepy and hyper-intelligent version of the Riddler.
I think the first thing the writing staff is going to have work on is the joker situation. But with possible other villians i can see like
The Riddler - jonny depp or Jim Carrey to reprise
Penguin - phillip seymour hoffman or Danny Devito to reprise
Mr Freeze - Patrick Stewart
Catwoman- Angelina Jolie
The Riddler - jonny depp or Jim Carrey to reprise
Penguin - phillip seymour hoffman or Danny Devito to reprise
Mr Freeze - Patrick Stewart
Catwoman- Angelina Jolie
Robin Williams for The Riddler!
Only if his brother Frasier Nygma shows up
Carrey again as the Riddler no. He already stole too much scenery in "Forever" and pissed off Tommy Lee Jones in the process
Here would be my idealized cast for Batman 3...
-Batman/Bruce Wayne: Christian Bale
-Alfred Pennyworth: Michael Caine
-Commishiner James Gordon: Gary Oldman
-Lucious Fox: Morgan Freeman
-Detective Renee Montoya: Eva Mendes or Jennifer Esposito
-Selina Kyle/Catwoman: Monica Baccrin
-Peguin: Philip Seymour Hoffman or Bob Hoskins
-Talia al Ghul: Kate Beckinsale
-Ra's al Ghul (Flashback sequences): Liam Neeson
-Batman/Bruce Wayne: Christian Bale
-Alfred Pennyworth: Michael Caine
-Commishiner James Gordon: Gary Oldman
-Lucious Fox: Morgan Freeman
-Detective Renee Montoya: Eva Mendes or Jennifer Esposito
-Selina Kyle/Catwoman: Monica Baccrin
-Peguin: Philip Seymour Hoffman or Bob Hoskins
-Talia al Ghul: Kate Beckinsale
-Ra's al Ghul (Flashback sequences): Liam Neeson
Niles Nygma: There you are! [Batman looks up] Yes, I'm talking to you, strudel boy! No one seduces my wife and gets away with it! You probably thought because of my refined bearing and swimmer's build that I wouldn't put up a fight for the woman I love. But you're dead wrong, because real men have a thing called "honor!" [Batman stands up and is significantly taller than Niles] Yow! You wouldn't know about that, would you?
Frasier Nygma: Niles...
Niles Nygma: You wouldn't know how decent people behave.
Frasier Nygma: Niles...
Niles Nygma: You wouldn't know the meaning of the word "rectitude!"
Frasier Nygma: Niles, he wouldn't know the meaning of the word "dog," "cat," or "pencil!" He doesn't speak English, remember?! [Batman growls in his gravely voice]
What Joker situation? His story is over. Reference him or show him in the shadows at Arkham Aslyum, but anything more is unnecessary.
Preach it!
This must happen!
Oh, THAT'S the way to go... yeah...
And while they're at it, they could Make Uma Thurman Poison Ivy... that'll make for a GREAT movie.
How about Arnold Schwartzenegger as Mr. Freeze? Or Jim Carrey as the Riddler?
YEAH... big name "stunt casting" and "star power" sure does make for great entertainment!
(Oh, and the guy playing Dent in this last movie... the fact that he's an virtual unknown clearly explains the HORRIBLE box-office this movie is doing.)
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Ummm... who is "Monica Baccrin?"
Could you possible mean "Morena Baccarin?"
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1072555/
Aaron Eckhart is hardly an unknown, unless you're continuing with the sarcasm.
I like Morena Baccarin as much as the next guy but seriously...acting along with Oscar caliber actors? Nope. Maggie Gyllenhaal could barely handle the screen with Bale, Ledger and Eckhart. For Catwoman, you need someone like Jolie, Rachel Weisz, Kate Beckinsale, Emily Mortimer or Cate Blanchett.
You shouldn't blame Gyllenhaal (or Holmes for that matter) for having the thinnest amount of material to work with. Rachel Dawes wasn't written even half as meaty as any of the other parts.
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