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I'm absolutely fine with the idea of Yeoman Colt turning out to be an alien. Maybe there's a story there! Maybe the Enterprise had an adventure with a body-swapping machine that placed Colt's mind into the body of an alien! Or maybe Colt was always an alien, and was able to hide that info in her heard from the Talosians! Or maybe this, or maybe that.
Now that tv and the movies are under the same rights again with the Paramount Plus banner, I assume Colt found Krall's life extension technology from 'Star Trek Beyond' and used it on some hapless spiky alien victim.
 
Conspiracy theories are fun.

Until the nutcases who believe them start getting elected...

I'm absolutely fine with the idea of Yeoman Colt turning out to be an alien.

No thanks. I'm a huge proponent of more alien Starfleet characters, but not at the expense of previous characters/continuity. #notmyColt

Same as the Klingons, she always looked like that and 1960's TV's just weren't good enough to see it ;)

Except there were 2 episodes of Enterprise showing what happened to the Klingons.

meh we need more alien on the bridge and less human so i'm ok with colt transformation lol

Agree on the first part, disagreed hard on the second. This is an opportunity to introduce new alien characters. Maybe even *crosses fingers* Nano from the Early Voyages comic.
 
Because explaining an established event and changing a character randomly are the same thing... :brickwall:
That's exactly what happened with Klingons before. TMP changed them...completely out of the blue. There was no explanation, plenty of fan theory, and Gene Roddenberry giving a *shrug* "They always looked like that" answer.

In canon we know next to nothing about Yeoman Colt. So, any change is just as randoms as the Klingons, the Romulans, the Trill, etc.
 
That's exactly what happened with Klingons before. TMP changed them...completely out of the blue. There was no explanation, plenty of fan theory, and Gene Roddenberry giving a *shrug* "They always looked like that" answer.

In canon we know next to nothing about Yeoman Colt. So, any change is just as randoms as the Klingons, the Romulans, the Trill, etc.

We know she's a human looking (could be one of the other Federation member species that look human) woman with red hair who at one time had a bit of a crush on Pike. She was a yeoman in Starfleet in the 2250s. Even ignoring the comics and novels (which I consider as canon as canon can be); those are the very basic things we know. The rest of her story is an open book, but changing the things we actually have seen of her is change for changes sake and is short-sited and, sorry, plain stupid.
 
We know she's a human looking (could be one of the other Federation member species that look human) woman with red hair who at one time had a bit of a crush on Pike. She was a yeoman in Starfleet in the 2250s. Even ignoring the comics and novels (which I consider as canon as canon can be); those are the very basic things we know. The rest of her story is an open book, but changing the things we actually have seen of her is change for changes sake and is short-sited and, sorry, plain stupid.
We also know that there are shapeshifter species. We know next to nothing about her. I like her very much and enjoy the comics but they are not canon and her character can change, since those details are not set.

What we have seen is...limited. :shrug:

I love Colt and all, nut, there is little of a character to go on with her. So, any changes are fair game and is only going against fan expectations, not established character. That's it. And, on another point, we don't know if that alien will end up being Colt. BTS information is not canon either.

So, again, extremely limited information to declare a possible change as "stupid." :shrug:
 
We also know that there are shapeshifter species.

Fine. Every one's a shapeshifter. Kyle never said he was human. Neither did M'benga, that officer Data dated in In Theory, Argyle, that first Starfleet security guy sent to work with Odo, Kelso, the Federation ambassador to the planet of galactic peace in Final Frontier, Robert Aprils wife, the background members of the Discovery bridge crew, Helen Noel, Janice Rand, Tuvoks bunkmate on Excelsior, the first officer on Lower Decks, Lacarno, the miners in Mudds women: all secretly red spikey shapeshifters. They were never established as human after all.
 
Fine. Every one's a shapeshifter. Kyle never said he was human. Neither did M'benga, that officer Data dated in In Theory, Argyle, that first Starfleet security guy sent to work with Odo, Kelso, the Federation ambassador to the planet of galactic peace in Final Frontier, Robert Aprils wife, the background members of the Discovery bridge crew, Helen Noel, Janice Rand, Tuvoks bunkmate on Excelsior, the first officer on Lower Decks, Lacarno, the miners in Mudds women: all secretly red spikey shapeshifters. They were never established as human after all.
That's the nature of it-things simply can be changed. There is nothing precluding that except audience assumption. Colt could have been human and then something happened, she was an alien the whole time, on and on. There are possibilities here. Assuming that our preferences dictate that it must be is asking for irritation.

Again, I am not happy with the Colt change if it happens to be actually done, and not BTS/non-canon information. Thus far I don't think they will.
 
Fine. Every one's a shapeshifter. Kyle never said he was human. Neither did M'benga, that officer Data dated in In Theory, Argyle, that first Starfleet security guy sent to work with Odo, Kelso, the Federation ambassador to the planet of galactic peace in Final Frontier, Robert Aprils wife, the background members of the Discovery bridge crew, Helen Noel, Janice Rand, Tuvoks bunkmate on Excelsior, the first officer on Lower Decks, Lacarno, the miners in Mudds women: all secretly red spikey shapeshifters. They were never established as human after all.
Don't forget that this race of red spiky shapeshifters is mysteriously wiped out so that Odo and the Founders can be special again, just like how all Dr. Soong went around destroying all androids and probably killed Harry Mudd so that Data can be special.
 
Colt was a cardboard cut-out of a character. Less than two dimensional, she was a misogynistic stereotype created to be little more than a living set decoration. Nothing about the creative decisions regarding her from "The Cage" are worthy of being preserved if the SNW writers can get a good story out of radically changing the character concept.
 
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