Spoilers Dark PhoeniX - Review and Discussion Thread

[Infern0]

Saw it today, it was really, really "meh"

Sophie Turner isn't a good actress at all, just fortunate to be a "game of thrones kid", and Fassbender and McAvoy didn't have enough to do to salvage it. Once again they didn't get the best out of Jennifer Lawrence.

This series had some really good actors over the years but never hit the heights apart from when they briefly had Jackman come in and do a carry job.

Glad it's over, and the property is finally in the right hands.

 

[Set Harth]

I wish the filmmakers would understand that "does not get killed by gunfire" does not somehow equate to "is exempt from the laws of physics". This reared its head in both Apocalypse and DP, and it took me out of both films.

 

[Pauln6]

I wish the filmmakers would understand that "does not get killed by gunfire" does not somehow equate to "is exempt from the laws of physics". This reared its head in both Apocalypse and DP, and it took me out of both films.

At least Quicksilver got mashed when he fell over at high speed.

 

[Crystalline Entity]

I wish the filmmakers would understand that "does not get killed by gunfire" does not somehow equate to "is exempt from the laws of physics". This reared its head in both Apocalypse and DP, and it took me out of both films.

It seems very few movies these days outside of R-level crime/war movies even bother to show bullets penetrating flesh and blood - you get shot and just instantly fall to the ground. It can't be a CGI thing, so I'm guessing it's a ratings thing.

Then again, to bring up the laws of physics in the context of X-men/comic movies...

 

[suarezguy]

For the movie I thought it needed some additional set up from the previous movies to make this one relevant. I'm still struggling to understand how Marvel Girl's powers could be subjected to Phoenix powers??? Oh well, the X-Men movies were a mess from the beginning and this along with the rest doesn't have much of a cohesiveness that I praise the real Marvel Cinematic Universe. It is what is, a desperate film trying to be relevant but hopefully now after Disney has monopolized Hollywood we can finally get an X-Men which works in the MCU and hopefully forget about these dreadful X-Men movies.

I thought it was a big issue with many of the films that they had too many characters with too many of them underdeveloped, tieing in with the MCU and thus increasing the amount of characters involved and competing for screentime would make that flaw even worse rather than better.

 

[Tuvix5675]

Saw it today, it was really, really "meh"

Sophie Turner isn't a good actress at all, just fortunate to be a "game of thrones kid", and Fassbender and McAvoy didn't have enough to do to salvage it. Once again they didn't get the best out of Jennifer Lawrence.

This series had some really good actors over the years but never hit the heights apart from when they briefly had Jackman come in and do a carry job.

Glad it's over, and the property is finally in the right hands.

Disagree. I'm not sure X-men is in the right hands with Disney. Fox gave us the Animated series and films for close to 20 years, not sure what Disney intends to do with the property, but "The Gifted" and "Legion" were probably both cancelled due to Disney's acquisition. This is the longest running superhero team franchise in film. I actually liked DP, I'm not sure why all the critics are hating on it and rating it the worst of the franchise. It certainly is the lowest grossing, but it is qualitatively better than Apocalypse and X-men Origins: Wolverine, and gives a better treatment to the Dark Pheonix storyline than Last Stand.

 

[OCD Geek]

I thought it was a big issue with many of the films that they had too many characters with too many of them underdeveloped, tieing in with the MCU and thus increasing the amount of characters involved and competing for screentime would make that flaw even worse rather than better.

I love the majority of Fox's X-Men films, but that really was their biggest problem. They kept forcing in as many characters as they could only to needlessly kill them off or make them evil.

Jamie Madrox is evil in The Last Stand and Darwin is killed in First Class? Can't make X-Factor Investigations. Cyclops and Jean are dead before they can potentially have kids? Goodbye Cable, Rachel and Ruby until the Days of Future Past retcon. Wade Wilson has his mouth permanently sewn shut for some fucking reason!? Goodbye Deadpool until the retcon.

They just shot themselves in the foot left and right, when a Kevin Feige would have known which characters were C-list cannon fodder and which ones needed to be saved for future films and TV series. I'm not expecting filmmakers and studio exces to be comic book experts. Just that they know Wikipedia is a thing.

 

[Set Harth]

it is qualitatively better than Apocalypse

I feel like Apocalypse had higher highs. Did it also have lower lows? Not sure, but I know I like Apocalypse, overall, more than a lot of people do.

"The Gifted" and "Legion" were probably both cancelled due to Disney's acquisition.

There had been a lot of complaining about low ratings.

EDIT: On an unrelated note, I just realized that the guy who played Jean Grey's dad was in Bridge of Spies.

 

[F. King Daniel]

An annoyance: The school is renamed the Jean Grey School For Gifted Youngsters at the end. Why not name it for Raven? She'd become the unofficial public face of the X-Men for DoFP/Apocalypse and done loads more for the team than Jean.

 

[Guy Gardener]

An annoyance: The school is renamed the Jean Grey School For Gifted Youngsters at the end. Why not name it for Raven? She'd become the unofficial public face of the X-Men for DoFP/Apocalypse and done loads more for the team than Jean.

The X-Mansion was renamed the Jean grey School for Higher learning in late 2012 (All New X-Men #1) by Wolverine.

The movies are reaching to mirror the comics.

 

[The Wormhole]

Once again they didn't get the best out of Jennifer Lawrence.

Actually, she was probably one of the better things about this movie. It was cool seeing Raven/Mystique in a leadership role and butting heads with Xavier over how to run things. I was really disappointed they killed her off so relatively early, and that was with advance spoilers to prepare me. If they had kept her for the whole thing, it could have improved the movie quite a bit, IMO.

 

[StCoop]

Looking at the box office for the week it's not even going to come close to reaching 100 million in the US, which is astonishing.

The one comfort for Kinberg is that after this weekend everyone will be talking about how big a flop Men In Black is instead.

 

[OCD Geek]

The one comfort for Kinberg is that after this weekend everyone will be talking about how big a flop Men In Black is instead.

Chris Hemsworth and Tessa Thompson: "You have our money?" Shadowy figures: "Here."

As Hemsworth and Thompson walk away...

Pictured: Kevin Feige, Amy Pascal and Bob Iger.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Is there bad buzz about MIB? First I've heard of it.

 

[OCD Geek]

Is there bad buzz about MIB? First I've heard of it.

It has a 28% on Rotten Tomatoes, is following Men in Blacks II & III, and has nary a Smith or Jones in sight.

 

[StCoop]

Is there bad buzz about MIB? First I've heard of it.

It's rocking a 28% on RT at the moment.

The level of publicity and promotion for it, or lack there of, has been noticeable too. (Probably didn't want anyone asking Tessa Thompson how it was working with Liam Neeson...)

 

[Guy Gardener]

https://www.straitstimes.com/lifest...n-race-outburst-to-men-in-black-co-star-tessa

 

[Anwar]

It's rocking a 28% on RT at the moment.

The level of publicity and promotion for it, or lack there of, has been noticeable too. (Probably didn't want anyone asking Tessa Thompson how it was working with Liam Neeson...)

Is there bad buzz about MIB? First I've heard of it.

MIB International's problem is that they didn't market it well and make it clear it's just a continuation of the prior movies with 2 new agents. Folks assumed it was another reboot. That and Liam Neeson's recent comments lit the media on fire for a bit.

 

[Tosk]

I could have told y'all MIBI was going to flop...almost everything non-MCU with Hemsworth does. Man's a menace.

The school is renamed the Jean Grey School For Gifted Youngsters at the end. Why not name it for Raven?

Wasn't she a wanted criminal in the '60s and '70s? Whereas Jean was just a misunderstood young woman who made a few mistakes.

 

[Turtletrekker]

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