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Dark Matter Season 3

Well, this one was not quite as good at avoiding the cliches of the "trapped in a VR simulation" plot as a previous episode was at avoiding the cliches of the "trapped in a time loop" plot. Sure, they got to the reveal of the truth only about 15 minutes in, and they at least had Six be genre-savvy enough to test whether he was really free, but they still had his first escape turn out to be another level of the simulation, just like it always is in these stories. And they fell back on the more general cliche of a character (virtual Three) giving himself away by saying something he couldn't have known (the name of Varrick's wife), followed by "Well, you told me." "No, I didn't." I thought that Six had already figured out that Three was fake just based on his out-of-character solicitousness. They really didn't need to go for the cliche there.

Speaking of Kal's ex-wife, the music playing in the scene where Six and Anders watched his wife and son from a distance sounded very familiar. I think it must be an excerpt from a pop song that I've heard on some other recent show or movie. Did anyone recognize the song, or know what other productions have used it?
 
I found that episode very predictable, but I still enjoyed it. The moment that Five pushed for the colony's location and her reaction, I knew it wasn't real.

Also that VR Headset was a barely disguised Playstation VR headset, lmao. All they did was cover the logo.
 
Yeah, I noticed it was PSVR headset to. I figured out the first simulation when everyone was so insistent on finding out where the summit was, but they actually did get me with the second before the reveal. Cal having a wife and son was a nice little edition to his backstory.
 
When did they suggest there were three? All I remember them saying is that the other universe's Marauder had hitched a ride with them and there was no way of determining who was aboard.
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Heck, I was expecting only one of them had crossed over. In theory, I don't mind it being all five, but I would've liked some explanation as to why they chose to leave their own universe. Without some rationale based in those characters' own priorities and goals, it feels like an arbitrary choice the writers made to keep them in the show.
Went back and watched S2E08 "Stuff To Steal, People to Kill". Alt-Truffault captures our Raza, with Two & Three onboard the other ship having subdued Wexler, Tash, and Corso. Portia & Boone are under lockdown on our Raza. Truffault is defeated by Two sending Android 2.0 over to overide the Raza's systems. Truffault is allowed to return to her ship and leaves. Android 2.0 brings Two & Three back and Portia and Boone are released, informed that their comrades are tied up in their mess hall. A brief passage of time goes by, allowing for the captured blink drive to be installed. The gang returns to their universe where they are shocked by the Alt Marauder detaching and FTL'ing away.

Now at the time, I naturally assumed that Portia was informed (by her Android) that the trio had tried to kill her-granted, this doesn't occur onscreen, so naturally the last thing I'd expect is for her or Boone to have anything to do with them...the trio sneaking on the Marauder after P & B returned made the most sense. There wasn't enough time for them to talk their way out of Portia's vengence, and for all of them (sans Corso) to decide their life would be better if they left for another reality. Would she really let Corso have her ship too?

As for the nanite issue, the episode had Two watching a news feed reporting about an attack on Dwarf Star Technologies, with Rook having been killed, so we can guess she got hers upgraded before Two needed to.

Moving on to this week, happy to have Six back. And that he isn't a victim of any brainwashing. As others have pointed out, it was obvious he was being deceived in the first go round. I also wish they hadn't played the accidental name drop card, a dumb mistake on the part of the lead techie that wasn't necessary for Six to figure out he was being gaslighted.
The end with the Android, Mallozzi and company enjoy misdirecting us alot. Thinking that Sara might be trying to leave her virtual lair is causing the robot to malfunction probably won't be answer to what we saw. More angst for the crew, don't they have enough already? :D
 
Went back and watched S2E08 "Stuff To Steal, People to Kill". Alt-Truffault captures our Raza, with Two & Three onboard the other ship having subdued Wexler, Tash, and Corso. Portia & Boone are under lockdown on our Raza. Truffault is defeated by Two sending Android 2.0 over to overide the Raza's systems. Truffault is allowed to return to her ship and leaves. Android 2.0 brings Two & Three back and Portia and Boone are released, informed that their comrades are tied up in their mess hall. A brief passage of time goes by, allowing for the captured blink drive to be installed. The gang returns to their universe where they are shocked by the Alt Marauder detaching and FTL'ing away.

Now at the time, I naturally assumed that Portia was informed (by her Android) that the trio had tried to kill her-granted, this doesn't occur onscreen, so naturally the last thing I'd expect is for her or Boone to have anything to do with them...the trio sneaking on the Marauder after P & B returned made the most sense. There wasn't enough time for them to talk their way out of Portia's vengence, and for all of them (sans Corso) to decide their life would be better if they left for another reality. Would she really let Corso have her ship too?

Okay, there are two premises there I can think of challenges to. One, we don't know that installing the blink drive would be brief. It was only the second time they'd done that procedure, and since the first one had gone wrong, it stands to reason that they would've taken extra care to get it right this time. So that could've taken a couple of hours, easily.

Two, we're talking about a fully evil version of the Raza crew. This is probably far from the first time they've tried to kill each other. So Portia and Boone probably wouldn't make much of an issue out of it -- they'd just rely on their own alertness and intimidating-ness to hold the others' murderous impulses at bay, as they presumably were already doing beforehand.

Or maybe Portia came to them and said "Look, we all want to kill each other, but there's a bigger opportunity for all of us if we work together and hitch a ride back to that other universe." It still isn't clear what their actual motivation for doing so was, besides continuing to be a factor in the narrative, but whatever it is could've been enticing enough to get them to set aside their differences. (Maybe they think they can get away with more in a universe where anything they do will be blamed on the other Raza. Or maybe, since the war is further along in their universe, there's less intact stuff to pirate, plus they can get a leg up on events that haven't happened yet.)


As for the nanite issue, the episode had Two watching a news feed reporting about an attack on Dwarf Star Technologies, with Rook having been killed, so we can guess she got hers upgraded before Two needed to.

Really? I missed that. You'd think that would've warranted some sort of reaction from her -- it's a pretty big deal, storywise.


The end with the Android, Mallozzi and company enjoy misdirecting us alot. Thinking that Sara might be trying to leave her virtual lair is causing the robot to malfunction probably won't be answer to what we saw. More angst for the crew, don't they have enough already? :D

One possibility: Sara is using the Android's body to move around in reality, and is thinking of maybe killing Three so that he'll have to have his mind uploaded into cyber-afterlife and be with her forever. Although that's something that would only work if he were in a cryopod and Five were on hand to transfer his data, so maybe that's not it. Or maybe that's why she didn't go through with it.
 
Speaking of Kal's ex-wife, the music playing in the scene where Six and Anders watched his wife and son from a distance sounded very familiar. I think it must be an excerpt from a pop song that I've heard on some other recent show or movie. Did anyone recognize the song, or know what other productions have used it?
I listened to it again but couldn't place it. You're not alone in searching for it, though. There are two questions on Tunefind trying to learn the name of the song, but no answers yet. But you might want to keep an eye on that page and it may eventually be answered.
 
The moment the crew started asking for the coordinates of the meeting, I turned to my wife and said "He's in a simulation, and they're trying to get him to spill." She didn't even glance up from her needlepoint when she said "Yup." :lol:

We're so jaded.
 
Moving on to this week, happy to have Six back. And that he isn't a victim of any brainwashing. As others have pointed out, it was obvious he was being deceived in the first go round. I also wish they hadn't played the accidental name drop card, a dumb mistake on the part of the lead techie that wasn't necessary for Six to figure out he was being gaslighted.

For me it was the un-Five like questioning by Five and that he couldn't read because it wasn't real - a concept I first came across in an episode of Batman The Animated Series,

The end with the Android, Mallozzi and company enjoy misdirecting us alot. Thinking that Sara might be trying to leave her virtual lair is causing the robot to malfunction probably won't be answer to what we saw. More angst for the crew, don't they have enough already?

at first it reminded me of German Shepard my family used to have. At night she'd wonder around and check that everyone was in their bed and okay except she never pulled a gun on us.

And the GNN news anchor was Russ Hull who's the meteorologist for GlobalTV in Toronto,.
 
For me it was the un-Five like questioning by Five and that he couldn't read because it wasn't real - a concept I first came across in an episode of Batman The Animated Series,

I noteiced the similarity, but fortunately it had a different explanation. The B:TAS episode ("Perchance to Dream") claimed that it was impossible to read in a dream, but I read in my dreams all the time; the text is stream-of-consciousness and changes if I read it a second time, but it is legible. So that was just wrong. This was different because it was a simulation, not a dream, and it was drawing details from Six's own memories and knowledge. So he probably could've read something he knew well, like the labels on the Marauder controls, but he couldn't imagine text about something unfamiliar to him, like medical readouts or drug ingredient labels.
 
I noteiced the similarity, but fortunately it had a different explanation. The B:TAS episode ("Perchance to Dream") claimed that it was impossible to read in a dream, but I read in my dreams all the time; the text is stream-of-consciousness and changes if I read it a second time, but it is legible. So that was just wrong. This was different because it was a simulation, not a dream, and it was drawing details from Six's own memories and knowledge. So he probably could've read something he knew well, like the labels on the Marauder controls, but he couldn't imagine text about something unfamiliar to him, like medical readouts or drug ingredient labels.


The explanation utterly fails to matter, it was simply a give away for me - end of matter (no pun intended)
 
The explanation utterly fails to matter, it was simply a give away for me - end of matter (no pun intended)

It mattered to me because it's always annoyed me that the B:TAS episode claimed that something I do routinely in my dreams was "impossible." (I think it also got the hemispheres of the brain backward in the explanation it offered.) So I was relieved this episode didn't make the same mistake.
 
Nice acting from Melissa O'Neil -- I could tell almost immediately that the "Two" aboard the Zairon ship was actually alt-Portia, because she had more swagger and a slightly higher-pitched voice than Two. (Also, I read the episode description which said there were doubles ruining the crew's reputation.)
Seconded, the acting made it quite clear we were watching Portia. So we weren't
shocked when they shot the guards in the face (and then went much farther with the mass spacing).

Speaking of Kal's ex-wife, the music playing in the scene where Six and Anders watched his wife and son from a distance sounded very familiar. I think it must be an excerpt from a pop song that I've heard on some other recent show or movie. Did anyone recognize the song, or know what other productions have used it?
It was used earlier in Dark Matter, near the end of S01E09 (one part of the scene was Three getting emotional reading "Charlotte's web"). AFAIK it was composed by the shows resident composer, Benjamin Pinkerton. I've seen no credits for an outside song being used, at least.

As for the nanite issue, the episode had Two watching a news feed reporting about an attack on Dwarf Star Technologies, with Rook having been killed, so we can guess she got hers upgraded before Two needed to.
That was in the alternative universe? In the original, pretty sure that Rook is still around, with "the Dwarf Star conspiracy" coming up.

The end with the Android, Mallozzi and company enjoy misdirecting us alot. Thinking that Sara might be trying to leave her virtual lair is causing the robot to malfunction probably won't be answer to what we saw. More angst for the crew, don't they have enough already? :D
Possibly misdirection. We'll find out soon.

Random observations:
-Lt.Anders is still the go-too GA face, and he is totally onboard with the Raza now. I guess that Kierken isn't coming back?
-I liked it that Six could control important navigational functions of the Raza without Android assistance, as only Two was shown to do until now. As pilot of the Marauder, he should be able to control the Raza, too.
 
That was in the alternative universe? In the original, pretty sure that Rook is still around, with "the Dwarf Star conspiracy" coming up.


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Yes, in the alternate universe she was shown watching the news and saw the report of a recent attack on the company in which Rook had been killed. The newscaster namedropped Portia Lynn as being involved.
 
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Yes, in the alternate universe she was shown watching the news and saw the report of a recent attack on the company in which Rook had been killed. The newscaster namedropped Portia Lynn as being involved.
Cool, I missed or forgot that.

One other random observation: an Android controlling ship functions is apparently not standard issue in the DM universe. The Ishida cruiser didn't have one and would have to be modified to allow it.
Seems that the Raza is cutting edge, not only with the blink drive.
 
One other random observation: an Android controlling ship functions is apparently not standard issue in the DM universe. The Ishida cruiser didn't have one and would have to be modified to allow it.
Seems that the Raza is cutting edge, not only with the blink drive.

Not necessarily. Zairon is a separate civilization from the Galactic Authority, the corporate colonies, etc. Its customs and practices are distinct from those of the other societies we've seen in a number of ways, like having a monarchy, for one thing. So its technology could have differences as well. I don't think we've seen any androids in Zairon society yet; maybe they don't approve of them or something. Or maybe, since they have something resembling a feudal system, it's just cheaper to use human serfs for menial tasks than to buy and maintain androids.
 
One other random observation: an Android controlling ship functions is apparently not standard issue in the DM universe. The Ishida cruiser didn't have one and would have to be modified to allow it.
Seems that the Raza is cutting edge, not only with the blink drive.

Probably not suprising given The Andrioid (or should that be Zobot?:) is an uprated model as well.Maybe Two stole her and the ship from the research station which gave her the nanites.

Also suspect there might be other factors a) when you've got very small crew you it becomes harder to have have some-one continually at the helm etc so putting the functions through an Android greatly improves efficiency (and reaction times) and secondly prior to the memory wipes/stasis Two probably wasn't too trusting of her crew so routing command and control through the Android probably protecting against the crew turning against her.
 
For what it's worth, in the episode where the Android tagged along to the mall and met Victor, the store clerk didn't seem to find the idea of a ship's android unusual; he was just wondering why she was away from her ship. In general, nobody seems to be surprised by the idea of a ship's android. So I don't think they're rare. I think they just aren't a Zairon thing.
 
Yeah, I've gotten the impression that they're a fairly regular thing.
One possibility: Sara is using the Android's body to move around in reality, and is thinking of maybe killing Three so that he'll have to have his mind uploaded into cyber-afterlife and be with her forever. Although that's something that would only work if he were in a cryopod and Five were on hand to transfer his data, so maybe that's not it. Or maybe that's why she didn't go through with it.
That was exactly what I thought. With way they cut from her conversation with Two about being lonely to Android wandering around, it seemed like the two were probably connected.
 
For what it's worth, in the episode where the Android tagged along to the mall and met Victor, the store clerk didn't seem to find the idea of a ship's android unusual; he was just wondering why she was away from her ship. In general, nobody seems to be surprised by the idea of a ship's android. So I don't think they're rare. I think they just aren't a Zairon thing.
They may not be terribly unusual, but I guess they're expensive. Expensive enough that even a corporation is maybe not putting them on all ships as a standard practice.
As Marc wrote, with a very small crew the Raza has more need of it. The Ishida cruisers (and the corporate warships) presumably have far larger crews, maybe lessening the need for a shipboard android.
 
As Marc wrote, with a very small crew the Raza has more need of it. The Ishida cruisers (and the corporate warships) presumably have far larger crews, maybe lessening the need for a shipboard android.

But again, we're not talking about a single uniform civilization. Zairon is a separate nation and culture from the corporate worlds and the GA. The Ishida dynasty is over 400 years old, so Zairon has been evolving in its own distinct direction for at least that long. So there are more and deeper differences worth considering than just differences in ship size.
 
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