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Dark Matter Season 3

It still feels like they dumped One because he was the weak link. They could've kept the actor around as the real Corso. It's so weird what they went through with the actor. They kill Moss, then kill Corso, then introduce alternate universe Corso... who is the only one that didn't cross over to this universe.
 
alt-Corso not crossing over may simply have been actor unavailability. Since they didn't reveal who escaped in the marauder, they could and maybe did change plans.

Dark Matter isn't finished yet with the story of Derrick Moss, though. Assuming there will be a season 4 and 5.
 
Speaking of Kal's ex-wife, the music playing in the scene where Six and Anders watched his wife and son from a distance sounded very familiar. I think it must be an excerpt from a pop song that I've heard on some other recent show or movie. Did anyone recognize the song, or know what other productions have used it?
On Reddit, Mallozzi has confirmed that Benjamin Pinkerton, DM's resident composer, created this song. There is no soundtrack out, yet.

Not necessarily. Zairon is a separate civilization from the Galactic Authority, the corporate colonies, etc. Its customs and practices are distinct from those of the other societies we've seen in a number of ways, like having a monarchy, for one thing. So its technology could have differences as well. I don't think we've seen any androids in Zairon society yet; maybe they don't approve of them or something. Or maybe, since they have something resembling a feudal system, it's just cheaper to use human serfs for menial tasks than to buy and maintain androids.
Also on Reddit, Mallozzi wrote that most, but not all, of the corporate ships have control androids like the Raza has.
 
Also on Reddit, Mallozzi wrote that most, but not all, of the corporate ships have control androids like the Raza has.

So maybe for the Ishidia it's either a cultural thing or they don't have the financial resources for androids.
 
So maybe for the Ishidia it's either a cultural thing or they don't have the financial resources for androids.

The use of names here is confusing to me. The civilization is called the Principality of Zairon, and Ishida is just the name of the ruling dynasty. So it's odd to hear them keep using names like Ishida Cruiser, Ishida Imperial Shuttle, and Ishida Research Station. I guess they could be called that because they're specifically part of the dynasty's possessions, but it seems odd to give them the name of the dynasty rather than the country. After all, most ruling dynasties want to sell the idea that the dynasty and the nation are the same.
 
Okay, so two and a half seasons in, we finally know what century the show is set in -- it's about 600 years in the future, thus it's the early 27th century. That's actually earlier than I expected, since we learned a while back that the Ishida dynasty of Zairon is 400 years old, which doesn't leave a lot of time for the invention of FTL, the colonization of space, and the establishment of that civilization. Unless the Ishida dynasty is older than the Principality of Zairon, which I suppose it could be.

But they massively overestimated how far Pollux would move through space in just 600 years. Half a light-year in that time would be 1/1200 c, or about 250 km/s. Pollux's true space velocity is only about 30 km/s, so it should've only moved about 6% of a light year in that time.

It's also kind of corny making these guys' accidental time journey responsible for creating their entire civilization. That makes these characters way too cosmically important. It was quite enough to suggest that they had the power to change future events because things were unstable enough for a small group to make a difference. Now the entire shape of the universe is the result of their actions? That's going too far. Also, the explanation is silly. Because the kid met people from the future, his tales inspired his granddaughter to invent FTL drive? What, like 21st-century culture wasn't already littered with stories of aliens and time travelers?
 
^ Having space travelers come to contemporary Earth is a corny cliche anyway so might as well run with it I guess. I liked how Six's suit looked more anachronistic than his usual digs. And were those real companies the Android was shilling when purchasing the house?
 
^ Having space travelers come to contemporary Earth is a corny cliche anyway so might as well run with it I guess. I liked how Six's suit looked more anachronistic than his usual digs. And were those real companies the Android was shilling when purchasing the house?
Yeah, the whole set up was kinda ridiculous, but like you said...if you just run with it, it's fun. Also, I am sure if saved on the budget some ;)
 
That game console was a DVD player, lmao.

The game was real though, and I believe that was actual footage from the game.
 
Yeah, that was a fun one.
I was surprised that it was that far in the future, things seem a bit more modern than I would expect them to be 600 years in the future. I understand their limited in how far they can go by budget, but there are still ways they could make the show feel more futuristic than it does.
I was expecting something more like 200 or 300 years from now.
I wasn't to bothered by the whole thing with the Raza crew being the insperation for FTL travel, these kinds of stories do that all the time.
 
I was expecting something more like 200 or 300 years from now.

That was ruled out weeks ago when Teku said the Ishida Dynasty was 400 years old.

Honestly, I was hoping for something further ahead. For most of my life, I've noticed how reluctant SFTV seems to be to venture more than a paltry few centuries into the future. There have been so many shows set in the 22nd to the 25th century -- Star Trek, Buck Rogers, Logan's Run, Space Rangers, Babylon 5, etc. Not to mention all the near-future or present-day shows -- The Invaders, Lost in Space, Land of the Giants, Space: 1999, SeaQuest, Farscape, Stargate, etc., or late 21st century shows like Cowboy Bebop and Continuum. Yet there haven't been that many shows set much further in the future. Firefly was in the 26th century, just a bit beyond the usual cutoff, as was Cleopatra 2525, obviously. Planet of the Apes was 2000 years or so in the future. Red Dwarf began in the 22nd century but then jumped 3 million years ahead. Futurama was 1000 years ahead. Andromeda was 3000 years ahead. Doctor Who, of course, jumps all over the timeline. But the majority of shows seem to stay within 500 years of the present. DM is a bit beyond that, but not by much.

Well, there's still Killjoys, which certainly seems to be very far in the future, given the changes in spelling and cultural references, and the bit in the Scarbacks' benediction about coming from "a home we've forgotten."


I wasn't to bothered by the whole thing with the Raza crew being the insperation for FTL travel, these kinds of stories do that all the time.

Even so, it was done badly here. As I said, it's not as though there aren't already a ton of people today thinking about the prospects for interstellar travel. It's been an active field of research for decades. Plenty of people are already inspired to pursue it, both out of scientific curiosity and love of science fiction. So the idea that the inventor of FTL was inspired by her grandfather's tale of meeting people from the future as a kid, as if somehow nobody else outside her immediate family had ever been inspired by the possibility of star travel, is absurdly weak. If, say, they'd established that the Raza crew had left some actual piece of technology behind that the kid's granddaughter had reverse-engineered, then that would make sense as a cause and effect. But just hearing tales from her granddad about meeting time travelers one day? No. That's just too feeble a connection. There's nothing there that would make her stand out from all the other people who are already inspired to research interstellar propulsion for various other reasons. As connections go, it's beyond weak -- it's downright homeopathic.
 
I was surprised that it was that far in the future, things seem a bit more modern than I would expect them to be 600 years in the future. I understand their limited in how far they can go by budget, but there are still ways they could make the show feel more futuristic than it does.
I was expecting something more like 200 or 300 years from now.
I wasn't to bothered by the whole thing with the Raza crew being the insperation for FTL travel, these kinds of stories do that all the time.



yeah I guess depticitng holographic controls etc would stretch the effects budget.

But it can also be funny the way the technologies can develop advace in some ways (ftl drives) but not others (still using touch screen controls)

Then again look at Star Wars - energy weapons, ftl drives for millenia - but they still push buttons and requires 1000s to crew their ships.
 
But they massively overestimated how far Pollux would move through space in just 600 years. Half a light-year in that time would be 1/1200 c, or about 250 km/s. Pollux's true space velocity is only about 30 km/s, so it should've only moved about 6% of a light year in that time.
I assume the figure you quote is relative to the Sun as there is no such thing as an absolute reference frame. I don't know what reference frame the Raza was using. Not something I found particularly problematic about the episode.
 
I assume the figure you quote is relative to the Sun as there is no such thing as an absolute reference frame. I don't know what reference frame the Raza was using.

Come to think of it, since they were at a space station in Pollux orbit at the time of their temporal jump, they should've been moving through the galaxy at roughly the same velocity as Pollux itself, so if you define that as their "stationary" reference frame, then Pollux should've been much closer still!
 
Come to think of it, since they were at a space station in Pollux orbit at the time of their temporal jump, they should've been moving through the galaxy at roughly the same velocity as Pollux itself, so if you define that as their "stationary" reference frame, then Pollux should've been much closer still!
Could also apply Mach's principle and handwave that they remained stationary with respect to other matter in the universe. Rotation of the galaxy would mean a displacement of only about 0.5 ly and perhaps the remainder was due to the Galaxy's movement within the local group. IIRC the velocity towards the Andromeda galaxy is something like 0.002 ly per year so that adds only another 1.2 ly displacement, not necessarily in the same direction. I'm probably overthinking this...

ETA: The CMBR dipole anisotropy implies that the velocity of the solar system relative to the rest of the universe represented by the CMB is 386 km/s, 0.00129 ly/y (c/775). Taking that value as typical for all the stars in the Galaxy and the CMB as the reference frame would imply a displacement of 0.774 ly in 600 years. Again too small...
 
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Well, there's still Killjoys, which certainly seems to be very far in the future, given the changes in spelling and cultural references, and the bit in the Scarbacks' benediction about coming from "a home we've forgotten."
Yeah, Killjoys does feel more like it could be a lot farther out in the future, even if it does still have a fair amount of modern looking stuff in it. There really feels like there's a lot more history there than Dark Matter.
 
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