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DARK CITY war!!!

You and I are noir SF/F fans. Everyone knows it. If we had our way all films would be made this way, dammit.
 
Not going to argue that Vangelis' score to Blade Runner isn't incredibly 1980s, either. It's definitely of the period. But it also works so well (and one of these days it is surely to be released properly and legally on CD...one of these days).
You mean like this one?

Nope. The third disc of that set is a travesty of spoken word material combined with new music, neither of which relate to the film. The first disc is just the 1994 album "remastered" (but with no discernible increase in quality), including all the intrusive dialogue over Vangelis' music. I'm happy for the inclusion of the second disc, though it's still annoying, flopping the order of cues and mixing them together so they can never be re-arranged, and several of the cues aren't as they were in the film.

I was really excited about that CD set, too, when it came out. Such a shame.
 
You should rent She Creature ;)

Did you watch him in the BBC's recent modern re-settings of Shakespeare? He did Taming of the Shrew with Shirley Henderson. It was sublime. The only word to describe it.

You're actually not the first person to recommend it to me, but no, I have not seen it yet. I have it stored, but then I have an awful lot of things stored. An impossible amount even.

You and I are noir SF/F fans. Everyone knows it. If we had our way all films would be made this way, dammit.

Me? Yes, absolutely. :lol:

I'm kind of hoping that Yesterday Was a Lie is going to be good, but i've heard highly mixed reviews for it so far.
 
But then I'm a Rufus Sewell fan and I suspect most people over the pond still wouldn't recognise that name if it slapped them in the face.

By the time I first saw Dark City (which was only within the last couple years when I found a used copy of the Director's Cut), I was already familiar with Rufus Sewell from when he played Prince Fortinbras in Kenneth Branagh's version of Hamlet and when he played the villain in A Knight's Tale. However, Dark City is the first & only time I've seen him play a good guy.
 
He was brilliantly funny in Taming of the Shrew, especially the bit when you see him in all his gorgeous finery for the wedding and then he decides the morning suit isn't 'him'. Hilarious.
 
But then I'm a Rufus Sewell fan and I suspect most people over the pond still wouldn't recognise that name if it slapped them in the face.

By the time I first saw Dark City (which was only within the last couple years when I found a used copy of the Director's Cut), I was already familiar with Rufus Sewell from when he played Prince Fortinbras in Kenneth Branagh's version of Hamlet and when he played the villain in A Knight's Tale. However, Dark City is the first & only time I've seen him play a good guy.
That brings me to something I always found mind-boggling. I tend to find the actors who get typecast as villains (and Sewell has played the villain so many times that I think it cna apply to him) much more attractive and charismatic than those usually cast as good guys. What is wrong with Hollywood casting directors? :cardie:

Naturally, I was so happy to see Sewell finally get to play the lead.

Oh and I loved both Dark City and Blade Runner - but I saw them both a long time ago, and I haven't even seen the director's cuts. Thanks for reminding me to find and watch Dark City director's cut - and a rewatch of Blade Runner, in its many different versions, is also in order! :techman:
 
Don't bother with the Blade Runner fanwank stuff. Any version is vastly superior to any other film you'll ever see.
 
Except for the version of Blade Runner that has the voice over. You can really tell what Ford thought of the writing when recording that. Yikes! ;)
 
He's a professional so he did it professionally. All the gossip that has accumulated around the voice-over in the endless releases afterwards is fanwank. Ford made the comment that he and Scott didn't like the voiceover but there's a whole difference between not agreeing with it and doing a shit job of it.
 
There's also a difference between doing a shit job and doing a shit job on purpose. Ford recorded the voice over, yes, but it was never very convincing. They tried to do it three times, the last time, with a new writer and without Scott's participation, IIRC. I think anyone's performance would suffer under those conditions.
 
He's a professional so he did it professionally. All the gossip that has accumulated around the voice-over in the endless releases afterwards is fanwank. Ford made the comment that he and Scott didn't like the voiceover but there's a whole difference between not agreeing with it and doing a shit job of it.

I'm not concerned what the accumulated gossip was surrounding the voice over, I didn't know there was any. All I know is that i got about 20 mins in before I had to switch it off.
Whatever the reason, or intention behind the performance, it's blindingly obvious Ford wasn't feeling it.
 
I assume you mean his cinematic performance, since the voice overs weren't very long, despite what legend would have it. Fair enough. Some people don't like him. Some people don't like the film. But using the voice over to condemn the whole thing is not a particularly convincing argument.
 
You assume incorrectly, I am talking about the voice over. His cinematic performance was fine and where exactly did I condemn the whole film because of the theatrical version's voice over? I love Blade Runner but I just can't stand the theatrical cut and yes that's mostly because of the voice over. It's like scribbling a moustache on the Mona Lisa.

Perhaps I'd feel differently if I'd seen that version first, but I didn't. Still, I don't think I'm exactly alone in my distaste for the voice over. As I recall even Ford himself didn't like it.
 
But then I'm a Rufus Sewell fan and I suspect most people over the pond still wouldn't recognise that name if it slapped them in the face.

By the time I first saw Dark City (which was only within the last couple years when I found a used copy of the Director's Cut), I was already familiar with Rufus Sewell from when he played Prince Fortinbras in Kenneth Branagh's version of Hamlet and when he played the villain in A Knight's Tale. However, Dark City is the first & only time I've seen him play a good guy.

More will recognize him now, from being on the short-lived US version of Eleventh Hour.

Not A LOT more, but....more. :)
 
You assume incorrectly, I am talking about the voice over. His cinematic performance was fine and where exactly did I condemn the whole film because of the theatrical version's voice over? I love Blade Runner but I just can't stand the theatrical cut and yes that's mostly because of the voice over. It's like scribbling a moustache on the Mona Lisa.

Perhaps I'd feel differently if I'd seen that version first, but I didn't. Still, I don't think I'm exactly alone in my distaste for the voice over. As I recall even Ford himself didn't like it.

I don't like the voice over either, but it is unfairly maligned to an excessive degree. Watch the Theatrical Cut, and you'll see, or rather hear that there are only four or five lines of voice over dialogue. It certainly isn't constant or permeates the film. But. They are absolute clangers of exposition, and they do have the effect of slowing the film down. I find the sunny ending of the TC far more out of place than the voiceover.
 
Oh it's not the only problem with the theatrical cut or the worst, by any means. However I think it's perceived impact is increased by the fact it's there right from the offset and if you're one of those who saw the Director's Cut first, it's very jarring.
 
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