Daredevil season 3 Marvel/Netflix
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Again, that's just the powers. Any number of characters can fit in that slot. There is nothing of Bullseye in it. At least the shitty film Bullseye was unique. Completely inaccurate and a fairly shit character, but at least he was distinctive, and appearance wise had more in common with the comics (which is really pathetic on DD S3's part, that the movie's Bullseye looked more like Bullseye).
Powers. Do. Not. Make. The. Character. Bullseye isn't deadshot, but Deadshot fits that description just as well. Hell, you could fit a character like taskmaster into this story and basically no one would know he wasn't supposed to be in it.
"Spirit of the character" is BS. Its not a real thing. there is the real character, and not the character. "Spirit of the character" is the kind of bullshit people use to defend the practice of stealing a character's name and powers for a shitty original character, its not actually a thing.
You didn't really watch the show, didja? Just making stuff up as you go along, or taking cues from other discussion online?
You didn't really watch the show, didja? Just making stuff up as you go along, or taking cues from other discussion online?
I sure as hell won't watch Season 3. I know what happens, and nothing I've said is made up, so your argument is really crappy. I don't have to watch it to see how fucking terrible it is.
Yeah, didn't think so. Cheers.
You know, kirk, for someone who is so angry about this show and is so adamant about never, ever watching the third season, you sure spend a lot of time in the discussion thread for the third season of this show.
Yeah, didn't think so. Cheers.
Oh yeah, one of these rabid fans. "You must watch every second of shit to know it stinks, even if you already know the whole story"
Because I liked the first two seasons (even if Season 2 was a big downgrade), so I'm going to criticize the show when it goes to shit. Of course I'm going to discuss it, its a really fucked up situation effecting a show that I used to like a good deal.
And here we go again. You judging something you haven't watched and using that hatred to justify posting in the discussion thread for people who have watched the product. And you actually expect people to take you seriously?
Kudos for consistency. But, expectations are a hard thing to get past.
Nice goalpost shift. You said he's worked as a government agent before, but not an investigative agent. I pointed out that he's not an investigative agent here, but rather a FBI SWAT sniper (and one who kills surrendering perps who dropped their weapons and put their hands up), which is perfectly in keeping with the morally vacant federal agent sharpshooter part that's been depicted before by your own admission.
There's nothing of Bullseye? There's his abusive father (since deceased). There's his getting his first kill during a baseball game as a kid where he was a perfect pitcher (wearing a bullseye cap, so he's calling back to his first murder when he will be wearing or tattooing or scarring the bullseye symbol later, which is pretty dark and befitting the character). There's his being obsessive compulsive about his targets (and women he's become obsessed with) and stalking them to learn every detail about their backgrounds. There's the fact that he's a psychopath/sociopath (who goes so far as to talk suicidal people into killing others instead of themselves). There's his penchant for killing people by precision throwing whatever objects happen to be available, like the handgun magazine (or a tiny steak knife he throws into a picture of a woman he's obsessed with). Yeah, totally nothing of Bullseye.
By the end,
he gets his bones reinforced with metal like in the comics. No, not adamantium, because they likely didn't have the rights to use it yet, so commence freakout again.
You know how I gathered all this fantastic factual information? By watching the friggin' show instead of complaining about it endlessly without knowing what the hell you're talking about, as usual.
You want him to appear fully formed as the character from the comics, but they're giving him an origin story showing how he became Bullseye and started working as Fisk's assassin, so he's going to evolve into the character we know. Right now he's doing the storyline from the comics where he dons the traditional Daredevil suit to frame Matt for crimes he didn't commit.
Why. Would. Anyone. Assume. That. It. Was. A. DC. Character. Or. Someone. Daredevil. Has. Much. More. Rarely. Squared. Off. Against. Instead. Of. Arguably. His. Greatest. Adversary?
If someone shows up with almost superhuman accuracy in a Daredevil story, anyone even casually familiar with the character will know who it's supposed to be, but you knew that. Your constant goalpost shifting is insufferable. You set up certain conditions, and then when someone tells you that yes, that's how it is, you adjust the complaint to go right on feeding your outrage machine.
None of it's a real thing, your ridiculous tantrums aside.
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I’m a knob. I assumed he’d just randomly torn a part off the gun.
Also, I kinda knew it was Bullseye when I heard the name. The comic version has never been a personal favourite, and I don’t tend to keep track of him outside of when he appears in series I’m already reading. But for some reason I remembered the Poindexter alias. Presumably because it’s (purposefully) a bit of a joke.
Come to think of it, in one of the Age Of Apocalypse books, I’m fairly certain Bullseye was just a solider that was originally working for what was left of humanity’s government. He wasn’t DD’s nemesis, doesn’t immediately seem crazy, and never wore the costume or used the Bullseye name.
Because Marvel was trusting that its child audience could use their brains, and work out who this seemingly normal dude with the freakish aim was.
And considering that AoA is remembered somewhat fondly, they would appear to have not been mistaken.
Also, I kinda knew it was Bullseye when I heard the name. The comic version has never been a personal favourite, and I don’t tend to keep track of him outside of when he appears in series I’m already reading. But for some reason I remembered the Poindexter alias. Presumably because it’s (purposefully) a bit of a joke.
Come to think of it, in one of the Age Of Apocalypse books, I’m fairly certain Bullseye was just a solider that was originally working for what was left of humanity’s government. He wasn’t DD’s nemesis, doesn’t immediately seem crazy, and never wore the costume or used the Bullseye name.
Because Marvel was trusting that its child audience could use their brains, and work out who this seemingly normal dude with the freakish aim was.
And considering that AoA is remembered somewhat fondly, they would appear to have not been mistaken.
Just got done and I have to say this is easily the best Marvel Netflix season in quite some time. Right up there with Daredevil & Jessica Jones's first seasons. D'Onofrio is a huge part of that once again. He clearly relishes the role and plays it with depth, subtly, intelligence and a barely restrained furious rage just under the surface.
It'll take a while to process my thoughts into something more coherent, but there is one lingering question from the last episode that's been bugging me...
It'll take a while to process my thoughts into something more coherent, but there is one lingering question from the last episode that's been bugging me...
Was that Melvin's body in the freezer? Because I really, really hope not.
Someone else asked that earlier and I have to admit I didn't even think of that possibility when we saw the bodies. I certainly hope he wasn't among them, but the alternative is a long stay in prison (he brutally attacked police officers, after all), so either way I don't expect we'll be seeing much of him in the future.
I finished it yesterday. Haven’t rewatched any season one episodes in full (with the probable sole exception of Stick), but I think season three matches or exceeds it overall. This has got to be the best season for Fisk (with strong characterization and D’Onofrio seemingly relishing the role) and that eleven-minute take in episode four can probably hold its own against long shots in the likes of Children Of Men or Goodfellas.
Unlike most other Marvel / Netflix seasons it seemed to keep its momentum, although perhaps it could have done with being one episode shorter towards the end.
Another misgiving was that Poindexter’s turn to fully-paid-up bad guy seemed a bit sudden when it finally came, though I suppose the seeds had been kind of well-sown beforehand. A return in a later season could be very interesting.
I liked the episode Karen much better than I at first thought I would; it’s one of many instances this year where the show has exhibited great confidence in its many talented storytellers and its ability to sustain our interest.
Overall, a remarkable and satisfying season that throughout maintains a high level of quality on all fronts.
Unlike most other Marvel / Netflix seasons it seemed to keep its momentum, although perhaps it could have done with being one episode shorter towards the end.
Another misgiving was that Poindexter’s turn to fully-paid-up bad guy seemed a bit sudden when it finally came, though I suppose the seeds had been kind of well-sown beforehand. A return in a later season could be very interesting.
I liked the episode Karen much better than I at first thought I would; it’s one of many instances this year where the show has exhibited great confidence in its many talented storytellers and its ability to sustain our interest.
Overall, a remarkable and satisfying season that throughout maintains a high level of quality on all fronts.
The Daredevil issues in question (#196-200, iirc) didn't technically call it adamantium either. But it involved the woman who later became Lady Deathstrike, so they later made it clear that it was adamantum so she could have a reason to fight Wolverine, so it's actually very consistent with the Daredevil story
On top of that, as I mentioned, the whole story of Bullseye
dressing up as Daredevil to discredit him
I don't believe so. For starters, there were two of them in addition to the woman in the freezer. It would make more sense that they were the two people who killed that girl, especially since Fisk explicitly said that they were killed.
According to the MCU Wiki, Melvin Potter status is "ln custody" rather than "deceased". I never got the impression that one of them was supposed to be Melvin. The same source that gave Daredevil this lead also rattled off a couple of other names didn't he? I imagine those were the other corpses.
If Melvin is alive, I hope the newly returned Nelson and Murdock can help him out.
If Melvin is alive, I hope the newly returned Nelson and Murdock can help him out.
I’m thinking that Jessica Jones & Punisher will both be cancelled for sure. They may renew DareDevil but for shorter season. You would think if they were going to renew they would have announced it already. So it still looks iffy.
From what I recall, all of the past renewals were a significant time after the previous season dropped, so I don't think a lack of renewal a week after its release means anything.
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