I obviously meant billion and the million was a typo, but whatever makes you guys feel clever.
To be fair, you normally have to sit to the end of Avengers (and Marvel in general) films
News Daniel Craig signs up for Bond 25, Christopher Nolan in talks to direct
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To be fair, you normally have to sit to the end of Avengers (and Marvel in general) films
Ask the Professor, Mary Ann, the Skipper, Ginger, Mr & Mrs Howell, and Gilligan...
Saw the trailer at the cinema today. Not sure Bond smiled once. Also, there was some line from Blofeld that basically boiled down to ‘we’re not so different, you and I’. Had hoped Phoebe Bridge-Waller might inject some fucking charm. Hope I’m wrong, but this looks like another gritty, ‘let’s look at the darker side of Bond’ movie, which isn’t quite as fresh an idea as it was three movies back.
On the plus side, the new 00 looks good. Yes, a little of the typical ‘I’m a badass’ vibe, but glad they picked an actress who looks the part. Hate it when movies try to make some point about having a female action character, but then don’t let her put on enough muscle to look remotely physically intimidating. Part of me expects Craig’s Bond to die at the end and have her promoted to 007 as a twist, but I hope that doesn’t happen.
On the plus side, the new 00 looks good. Yes, a little of the typical ‘I’m a badass’ vibe, but glad they picked an actress who looks the part. Hate it when movies try to make some point about having a female action character, but then don’t let her put on enough muscle to look remotely physically intimidating. Part of me expects Craig’s Bond to die at the end and have her promoted to 007 as a twist, but I hope that doesn’t happen.
Gritty can be good (For Your Eyes Only, Licence to Kill) and those weren't like the previous three either. At least I remember enough of "Skyfall", and being influenced by "Home To Judgment" of "I Spy" fame and not "Home Alone' as people jokingly refer to was a big plus.
The title alone looks like a reject from a Studio 54 poster. It's not 1976 anymore and even the 1970s had better looking fonts and better graphic design. But it's a poster.
If the character looks believable, then more likely will the audience believe it too. As much as Roger Moore still had charisma, complaints of "Sixty year-old doing strenuous fights atop a big bridge and he wins and then proceeds to make it with someone a third his age" were not invalid. Humans age, it's a fact of life.
Plus, all this "you're a dinosaur" rhetoric was more relevant in the 1990s when done for Brosnan's era as it was a first and more interestingly done (for all we know, I'd be genuinely surprised if the new movie plays it better), topping even Dalton's "one woman Bond" where everyone screamed he's supposed to be promiscuous (which didn't bother me but would have bothered any bacterial or virus STD if such things had sentience because they couldn't get a free ride to the next proverbial buffet too... but people in 1987 and 1989 were shrieking about "Bond with only one woman?!! PC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" too, forgetting that PCs had competition from Macs and Atari ST and Commodore Amiga too...)
The title alone looks like a reject from a Studio 54 poster. It's not 1976 anymore and even the 1970s had better looking fonts and better graphic design. But it's a poster.
If the character looks believable, then more likely will the audience believe it too. As much as Roger Moore still had charisma, complaints of "Sixty year-old doing strenuous fights atop a big bridge and he wins and then proceeds to make it with someone a third his age" were not invalid. Humans age, it's a fact of life.
Plus, all this "you're a dinosaur" rhetoric was more relevant in the 1990s when done for Brosnan's era as it was a first and more interestingly done (for all we know, I'd be genuinely surprised if the new movie plays it better), topping even Dalton's "one woman Bond" where everyone screamed he's supposed to be promiscuous (which didn't bother me but would have bothered any bacterial or virus STD if such things had sentience because they couldn't get a free ride to the next proverbial buffet too... but people in 1987 and 1989 were shrieking about "Bond with only one woman?!! PC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" too, forgetting that PCs had competition from Macs and Atari ST and Commodore Amiga too...)
It was a great teaser. I hope the movie is as good. I still remember a teaser for Goldeneye, which was tight and engaging. Sadly the actual movie was just a ha-ha-bonkfest of stupid jokes. The saddest part is, it would be Brosnan's best film (IMHO), followed by "Die Another Day" until the moment it turns from a spy flick into something that made "Moonraker" look like hard-edged austere spy thriller and not a Star Wars ripoff wannabe by comparison...
I doubt that will happen unless they do a rewrite, right now I think they're playing fast and loose with dialogue (007 being an agent label anyone could have, noting an Agent (004, as I recall) was a woman back in "Thunderball" based on a promotional photograph with all the 00-Agents in glorious monochrome...) The picture definitely does exist and is legitimate. But Bond being retired and drinking booze at some luxurious place (again) and returning to find someone else is using his code number is likely all it is. And if codename Bond is killed, the new Agent 007 will be Jane Bond or whatever... Some people will take more issue with that than others, but there's never been a reason why other 00-Agents couldn't be and make their own as spinoff series. So why they would need to shoehorn "James Bond is a woman", especially as Barbara Broccoli has indicated that while she's in charge Bond would remain a male...
Some sources, albeit not all-inclusive for every minuscule point:
https://www.latimes.com/entertainme...15/james-bond-woman-producer-barbara-broccoli
https://screenrant.com/james-bond-25-female-00-agent-thunderball/
(I'd seen the photo by itself a long time ago but the new movie has prompted genre news articles to make mention of it too)
One of the essential elements of Fleming's Bond from the original novels was that Bond was always a man out of time. He basically represents the pre-WWII British Empire, and is very conscious of the changing geopolitics of the world and where he and Britain stand. This aspect was pretty much lost in the 60s films. You could argue the first time it creeped in was in the 70s when Bond was paired with a woman who's supposed to very much be his equal as an international agent. It's Bond meeting Women's Lib. But GE was the first to really play with that idea of Bond representing an era long gone, and it worked to make him a "relic of the Cold War". And this "man out of time" aspect even persists with Craig's Bond as he's mocked by Silva for his patriotism for "the Empire". I suspect this will continue with Nomi representing what a 21st century era 007 is in contrast to Bond being the old fashioned white male archetype.
This is partly why I'd argue for keeping Bond a white male, not just because that's how he was written in the novels but because it really hits home more on him representing the Colonial era Britain Empire, in a way that a black James Bond possibly couldn't. But I also wouldn't be against it, as someone like Idris Elba would have made a hell of a James Bond.
Super Bowl teaser:
Still looks pretty promising, the lame promise of everything changing aside.
Still looks pretty promising, the lame promise of everything changing aside.
Yeah I just worry they're going to bollocks everything up again by being too clever (or thinking they're clever).
If Malik is Dr No it serves no purpose. Like Waltz's Blofeld and Khan in Into Darkness it'll be a reveal for the audience not the characters. I'm not sure quite where I've got it into my head but I have a feeling this film is going to go off the deep end Moonraker style in its utter preposterousness. Safin's whole comment about his skills living on after he dies, the surprise of 007 when he sees Madeline again (because he thinks she's dead?)…
I'm probably way off base here
If Malik is Dr No it serves no purpose. Like Waltz's Blofeld and Khan in Into Darkness it'll be a reveal for the audience not the characters. I'm not sure quite where I've got it into my head but I have a feeling this film is going to go off the deep end Moonraker style in its utter preposterousness. Safin's whole comment about his skills living on after he dies, the surprise of 007 when he sees Madeline again (because he thinks she's dead?)…
Anyway, my idea (pretty sure I haven't mentioned this here) is that Safin has found a way to copy brain patterns, and stuff them in a clone body. Hence Madeline is a clone (or possibly a series of clones) and the film will end with Bond dying, but his memories being uploaded into a new body, finally explaining the reason Bond keeps changing (not that it needed explaining.
I'm probably way off base here
Oh, lordy. I hope you're way off base!
So do I...so do I...Oh, lordy. I hope you're way off base!
There was a lot of speculation that the film SPECTRE would be a retelling of OHMSS due to the presence of Blofeld (we knew who it was), the Hoffler Klinik on the snowy mountain looking like Piz Gloria, the OHMSS theme appearing in the teaser, but then it just turned out to be a bunch of nods rather than an indication of a remake. I wonder if that's just the case with NTTD, and us Bond fans are just hyper sensitive to any possible villain reveals like we got with Blofeld/Oberhauser.
And indeed lots of people thought that SPECTRE’s follow-up would start with Madeline being offed and we’d get the revenge film that many people people wanted DAF to be. But it doesn’t look like they’ve gone down that route at all.
And I'm extremely relieved. I like that NTTD seems to be taking a very different route with Madeleine rather than just making her a Tracy 2.0. And Craig's Bond had already lost a love interest with Vesper, and did a whole film where he's trying to reconcile his feelings for her after her death in QOS. We really don't need to go that route again.
The theme song performed by Billie Eilish will be released globally tomorrow at 4pm PT.
https://twitter.com/billieeilish/status/1227700334652358661
https://twitter.com/billieeilish/status/1227700334652358661
It's finally here
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Mini trailer with the theme song released too
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Mini trailer with the theme song released too
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Not too bad, but nothing special, although I could see it growing on me. It's a hell of a lot better than the garbage Sam Smith gave us for Spectre.
Actually, it sounds considerably better with the short trailer.
Actually, it sounds considerably better with the short trailer.
It's alright. I think the song is probably better than her way of singing it. Dammit, woman, you're following singers like Shirley Bassey and Tina Turner, so use your voice, don't hide it.
Mewling musical misery. Worst Bond song ever. (The Smith one, that is.)
Yep. With these last two songs, the producers seem to have forgotten that Bond themes are supposed to be huge, dramatic, bombastic. Even the ballads: Adele fucking nailed it with "Skyfall." Or ask Tom Jones -- if singing the theme doesn't threaten to make you pass out, you're doing it wrong.