I purposely chose sexual examples, because they would align fairly accurately with my broader point.
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People have the freedom to express their views all they want. But they don't have the right to do so without consequence. If those views are homophobic, then they can expect to get called out on that. But there's really no difference there between Christians and non-Christians; neither group is free from the consequences of their own actions. So that doesn't really strike me as a right Christians are being denied that others somehow enjoy.
Really going to conflate homosexuality and rape, are you?
As the literal "uncaused first cause" regarding the universe, life, and everything else, God is the ultimate authority. His love and mercy are eternal, but so are His holiness and justice - as such, He must punish the guilty. He made a way for us to escape that, but He also gave us the free will to refuse. If we make that second choice, His judgment remains the only option.
So if I'm not mistaken, a believer who commits adultery gets to go to heaven but an atheist who does not commit adultery goes to hell. Sweet system y'all got there.
You said this...
According to this line of thought, you seem to be okay with people being expected to refrain from one behavior, but not another. Since you don't appear to follow God or Jesus, where are you getting your ultimate standard for this? Its obvious that man's laws can be fallible, so there has to be a higher authority.
Yes but what criteria is he using to define what a sin is? Why would God think Gay people having love for each would be something that would qualify as a sin? It's not about his authority. I mean he in theory created the universe and he has more power than anyone else so he can basically do whatever he wants to it but that doesn't mean his judgments make sense and fact they don't make sense are one of the reasons people do doubt God being real. Because why would a God who is the smartest most evolved living being, ever think so much like a lowly human when it comes to all of the things he all's a sin.
I get it from living amongst other people. By respecting them in all the ways that I expect them to respect me.
As I told CorporalCaptain, I was mainly using it as an example. I know there's differences, but I was trying to use a close allegory. By God's standard, both are sexual sins.
lol, no.
First, please use punctuation; run-on sentences are difficult for me to keep up with.
Now, you asked, "what criteria is He using to define what a sin is?"...and the answer is, "He is using His own divine nature". If God is eternally holy and just, then anything opposite that goes directly against Him, and all His divine rights. If He created everything, that means He also made us, including our bodies...and as such, He alone has the right to tell us how to use them. Lastly, God did not "evolve" - He is literally uncreated. He has always existed, since even before time, and He will always exist. Nothing has ever predated Him; that's why the first verse in the Bible declares, "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the Earth."
Every fallible human being has sinned against God - Scripture is very clear on that. The specifics of the sin in question don't matter; their choice still violated God's law. Anyone who doesn't repent, refusing to trust in Jesus' blood to save them, will be punished; its that simple.So if I'm not mistaken, a believer who commits adultery gets to go to heaven but an atheist who does not commit adultery goes to hell. Sweet system y'all got there.
God's standards are higher than ours, and for various reasons some people feel insulted or threatened by that.
When you tell over two-thirds of the planet that they're going to hell, you should probably expect people to feel insulted or threatened.
Are they, though? There seem to be many Christians out there who are accepting of gay people and extend love to them as fellow humans. (Isn't that one of Jesus' messages?) Are they not Christianing right? Is it maybe possible that fallible humans, who are interpreting "God's" word and spreading it to the masses, are maybe injecting their own intolerance and/or hatred into their "teachings"?
The more I read, the more I'm starting to wonder what the technical distinction is between a religion and a cult. As stated before, I don't begrudge you your faith, and I hope it is bringing some kind of joy to your life. But to be honest, at this point I'm kind of wondering if we should be asking you to blink twice if you need help.
@Moviefan2k4 you've so far in the last couple of pages equated being homosexual to murder, rape and adultery and you're still wondering why your ideas receive a negative reaction?
The sad thing is that the man you claim to do this on behalf of would almost certainly not recognize himself in that bigotry.
I was content to allow the debate to continue while it was civil; homophobia is not civil, so we are done here.
The sad thing is that the man you claim to do this on behalf of would almost certainly not recognize himself in that bigotry.
I was content to allow the debate to continue while it was civil; homophobia is not civil, so we are done here.
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