CW The Flash Season 7 trailer!

[kirk55555]

Why would Earth-Prime Wells do that? He, like his Earth-1 counterpart, was killed by Thawne before the place was even built.

I'm betting that he's not going to be malicious, but he doesn't know Barry (presumably, unless some weird thing happens with Thawnes or the other Wells memories). He'll just see a group of people who from his perspective are squatting in his lab, and he'llwant his stuff back. Eventually it will be resolved, but it will be very annoying.

More likely we'll have Wells attempting to cope with everything that's happened. Like him being killed, his wife being killed, his murderer running around pretending to be him, everything being wiped from existence, everything being recreated, and his resurrection.

That will probably happen, and thats the interesting part of the character. But, unless something weird happens, he'll have no idea who any of Team Flash is, he'll just know that Star Labs is his place, and he'll probably want it back. Now, if he isn't officially declared living again he might not be able to legally take it from barry, but I foresee drama related to the Lab, which I don't want to happen but can't see it not being brought up.

Then stop watching.

Nope. Season 5 was good before the Mirror Master plot started wearing out its welcome near the end, and the show is still nowhere near as bad as it was in season 4. No shitty Thinker, no fake elongated Man taking up screentime. The show has fallen from where it was in the first three seasons, but its still very good when it tries to be and I'm sure that Mirror Master will be done soon, I don't think that it was even supposed to be in this season at all anyway, but the last part of the story got pushed because of the pandemic.

 

[thribs]

The mirror story is nearly done so I wouldn’t worry.

 

[dupersuper]

It's not about whether it makes sense. That is not the only factor that matters in a story. The problem is that it's a lazy cliche and an illegitimate stereotype. It's been done a million times before and this brought nothing new to it, just recycled the same hoary, predictable beats of the cliche.

Agreed, but to be fair, they did also throw in that 'we put neutral whatever in it instead of Thawnes negative emotion whatever in it" line to further explain Barrys detachment.

Then stop watching.

As those of us in the Superman and Lois forum know, not watching a show won't stop him from ranting about a show.

 

[Reverend]

Anyone looking for airtight logic and non-cliché plots in a show this wacky is clearly barking up the wrong tree. It's melodrama and cheese all the way down.

I'm glad they finally got back around to original Earth-1 Wells. For a while there it felt like they forgot Reverse-Flash (still the stupidest villain name ever) was an imposter. I'm guessing that now he'll be like the Omni-Well, or something?

 

[Christopher]

Agreed, but to be fair, they did also throw in that 'we put neutral whatever in it instead of Thawnes negative emotion whatever in it" line to further explain Barrys detachment.

I already acknowledged that in my initial comments, so I'm perfectly well aware of it. As I said, whether you can explain it is not the issue. It's about the unoriginality and wrongness of the cliche. No matter how they explained it in-story, the problem is that they chose to do it at all.

 

[Tuskin38]

As cool as it was seeing frost combine her ice and speed, she shouldn't have been that good at it, she's never trained to use the speed.

 

[thribs]

Was that the formation of the emotional spectrum at the end? They’re missing few colours if so.

Also, I wonder what OG Wells was looking at?

 

[tomalak301]

Last week was the first time in a long time I was excited for The Flash. This week I'm back to wondering why this series is still going after all these years.

This episode was not good. There were only two good things I really liked and they both included Harrison Wells: The scene where Barry gets his speed back, and the scene where Well and Cisco say goodbye.

The rest of this episode felt like the worst tendencies of 90s Star Trek reared it's ugly head. The things I was really curious about were explained through some of the worst technobabble I've heard from any sci fi show in the last 20 years (probably since Voyager). I mean you had the explaination for Wells which had something to do with Time Coalescing and about a quarter of the way through that explanation I was really really confused. The next thing was Ralph and god the way this show handled Ralph did seem Petty. Now I'm one of those people who tries to forgive people, and I know the Hartley Swayer thing was controversial when it happened, but this send off for the character felt insulting. Maybe not as insulting and vindictive as a specific scene in Star Trek Picard having to do with a legacy character, but maybe 2 levels below that. Ok, so Sawyer is no longer on the show. Fine, so be it. I think it would have been better if we didn't even see Ralph, or this version of Ralph. Maybe you have a phone call with him where he says something like, "we have a lead on clearing Sue's name, and Sue has offered me to go on adventures with her. I don't think you guys need me anymore, so I said yes." Ok, maybe that's a little corny, but it's better than this technobabble explanation that we were given. It leaves Ralph's integrity in tact and we can remember the good times, because Ralph had many good times.

As for the Mirror story, man that was CW through and through. You might as well play Huey Lewis and the News "Power of Love" over everything because you were already being beaten over the head with that theme anyway. Go all the way. At least Iris's powers are gone because if they had stayed, I probably would have rolled my eyes. Also, Eva should have faced the consequences for her actions. The fact that she didn't and was just able to walk free was disappointing.

I'm sorry for this passion, but this was an episode that makes me think the series is done. Heck, the ended it in a way where the series could be done. Flash still exists, we got closure on Wells, the city is saved, end the show and move on. I don't expect much from the remaining episodes, which is the unofficial start of season 7. Maybe they will surprise, but my expectations are pretty low.

 

[ialfan]

I enjoyed the "finale" for the most part. The parts with Iris and the speed force were cheesy but no more than the rest of the show.

I'm still not sure why they made re-empowering Cisco temporary in Crisis when they clearly want to use him as more than tech guy.

Why bother sending Wells away though when we all know he will be back in a few episodes?

I didn't hate seeing "Ralph" in this episode but it felt like an acceptable ending when the actor suddenly died not when the actor was "canceled". I don't agree with his firing over misconstrued posts from almost a decade ago at all. He was one of my favorite characters the last few seasons and it is just a waste.

I'll keep watching but I feel like this might have been a good jumping off point.

 

[Xerxes82]

Was that the formation of the emotional spectrum at the end? They’re missing few colours if so.

I wonder if it's adapting a recent Flash story that introduced other "Forces". In addition to Speed, there was the Strength Force, the Still Force, and the Sage Force, each of which granted different abilities. Hunter Zolomon was the villain in the comic story, I believe.

 

[thribs]

I wonder if it's adapting a recent Flash story that introduced other "Forces". In addition to Speed, there was the Strength Force, the Still Force, and the Sage Force, each of which granted different abilities. Hunter Zolomon was the villain in the comic story, I believe.

The still force? Ha!

 

[Dick Whitman]

I had mixed feelings about that episode. I am glad this did not air as an actual season finale. We do not have to wait months for the next episodes to starting explaining things. Like Wells’ dramatic departure when he is certainly coming back.

This is very much how I expected them to handle the Ralph situation. The show runner said he was going to be recast to temporarily resolve his role from last season. With the plan to return him later on. There are two ways that could go. By that point they reveal he did not heal back to is original face and voice and introduce a new actor. Now I am not expecting this but it’s possible that Hartley Sawyer could come back after an extended leave. After him doing some type of public gesture of contrition for what he did. A donation to a specific charity and public service ad. Probably not but clearly are not done with Ralph the character though.

I am glad the Mirror Universe story is done. There was some interesting moments throughout the arc. But it was very long. Even if there was no break due to the pandemic felt longer than the story they had to tell. The resolution was very unsatisfying. Nash’s sacrifice two weeks ago was more interesting than anything in this. Which was more a coda to Crisis. That is a problem with big crossover events like that in the middle of a season they overshadow the main season storyline.

 

[Tuskin38]

So the speed force came back but also exploded into 4 other coloured blasts, hm.

I also wonder what Harrison Wells saw in the speed lab.

 

[Christopher]

Well, this was kind of a mess on a detail level, and a lot of it was silly, but they had a lot to work out and I cut them some slack for pandemic effects and such. I do like it when heroes prevail by winning the villains over and appealing to their decency rather than just overpowering or destroying them, and I like it that Eva was a well-intentioned, somewhat tragic figure who lost her way; but I do think her turn was a bit too easy.

I also wonder what Harrison Wells saw in the speed lab.

He said at the end that he could see the future, so I think that was just him realizing what was happening in that moment (as we saw in the finale) and what it will lead to going forward.

As for the multicolored lightning, I'm thinking maybe we'll see four new speedsters empowered, since the show's conceit is explicitly that each speedster has their own trademark color of speed lightning (they even mentioned how Nora had yellow and purple lightning, corresponding to Barry and Iris's colors). But it could be those other "Forces" mentioned above, I guess.

 

[YellowSubmarine]

I wonder why they didn't try to simply talk the speed force back into existence.

 

[FreezeC77]

This episode felt like a "producers find out show isn't being renewed and try to quickly tie up plotlines in their last episode" kind of thing. I know there was a lot of stuff going on because of the pandemic and delayed episodes and possibly storylines truncated or not implemented at all and obviously the Ralph actor controversy required an unusual write-out...

So the speed force came back but also exploded into 4 other coloured blasts, hm.

Once Barry finds the other 4 planeteers they can summon Captain Planet.

 

[thribs]

Let’s all just be grateful the story is over

 

[Christopher]

Although the circumstances of it are unfortunate, I like the way they wrote out Ralph and Sue. Turning them into a pair of globetrotting adventurers is pleasantly reminiscent of their stories in the classic comics. I wouldn't mind seeing them get a spinoff, even if they recast Ralph. (Just say his genes expressed themselves differently when he healed. All the kids are doing it these days.)

 

[Mr. Adventure]

At least Ralph didn't get sent to a Kro-Magg breeding camp.

 

[dupersuper]

At least Ralph didn't get sent to a Kro-Magg breeding camp.

I don't get this reference.