Current shows to influence a new Trek TV Series?
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Without being a fanboi I think it would be useful if they took a another look at DS9. What I like most is that it managed to do Trek with both a long story arc and excellent stand alone episodes.
I hope they will look at Breaking Bad. What I like most about Breaking Bad are 2 things. Firstly the writers and director managed to add plenty of exciting "movie moments" With that I mean moments of which the viewer says "DID THAT JUST HAPPEN???!!??". And secondly the music was great in all of Breaking Bad.
Also I hope they add some weird shit to a new star trek show. I'm talking about the twilight zone. Or possibly like they do it in The Leftovers (cults doing un-human weird stuff).
I hope they will look at Breaking Bad. What I like most about Breaking Bad are 2 things. Firstly the writers and director managed to add plenty of exciting "movie moments" With that I mean moments of which the viewer says "DID THAT JUST HAPPEN???!!??". And secondly the music was great in all of Breaking Bad.
Also I hope they add some weird shit to a new star trek show. I'm talking about the twilight zone. Or possibly like they do it in The Leftovers (cults doing un-human weird stuff).
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Yep, Trek, and I mean all incarnations of it, often was a bit too "sober" for its own good.
I'd also find it good if they look at Game of Thrones. Not necessarily because of the sex and violence, but for cues how to adapt a large and varied cast into a TV show.
I'd also find it good if they look at Game of Thrones. Not necessarily because of the sex and violence, but for cues how to adapt a large and varied cast into a TV show.
-1 yes minus one
Respectfully, the Doctor is fun but he has too much fun. Please nothing timey wimey...
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I don't think the idea was to turn Star Trek into a zany time travel show. Just that Star Trek could profit from adopting a more lighthearted mood every now and then.
Perhaps Firefly might be a better example?
Perhaps Firefly might be a better example?
^ Oh god heaven's no! To me that arseface and his infantile howler monkey incarnation of the Doctor represent the worst of Dr. Who.
A commanding officer like SG1's Jack O'Neill, he viewed the world in a whimsical way, but could be deadly serious when the occasion called for it.
Make the show more character drive, instead of event driven. Have the problem of the week exist, but not constantly in the foreground.
Allow the characters to change over time, I know this is a risk in that they might charge into someone the audience doesn't like. If you look at most of the previous characters, while we find out more about them, they are essentially the same people in the pilot as in the last episode.
Make the show more character drive, instead of event driven. Have the problem of the week exist, but not constantly in the foreground.
Allow the characters to change over time, I know this is a risk in that they might charge into someone the audience doesn't like. If you look at most of the previous characters, while we find out more about them, they are essentially the same people in the pilot as in the last episode.
I'd rather they didn't. Of all the Stargate colonel's he's my least favourite. I'd rather a Mal Reynolds-style sense of humour.
This is what should be at the core of any new seriesMake the show more character drive, instead of event driven. Have the problem of the week exist, but not constantly in the foreground.
Allow the characters to change over time, I know this is a risk in that they might charge into someone the audience doesn't like. If you look at most of the previous characters, while we find out more about them, they are essentially the same people in the pilot as in the last episode.
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I would have them look at character more, ongoing storytelling, better dialogue and writing and more naturalistic acting. Humour isn't a major issue as that simply comes from better characters and writing. I despair of the whacky, eccentricities of the zany doctor not to mention the fact that there is NO threat in doctor who whatsoever (this also needs to be addressed in any new Star Trek show)
Oh man agreed. But yes, in my eyes Star Trek should take a leaf from Doctor Who and Frefly how to inject a bit of lightheartedness into their stories. Firefly and Game of Thrones on how to really bring a large and varied cast of characters to life and how to create interesting, character-driven stories that still have an epic feel to it.
Lexx had some creative ideas, they were just thoroughly unpleasant and revolting, but creative nonetheless.
A crossover with FarScape would be great! Not kidding
I agree with you there, Bry. A crossover with Farscape would be great.
Oh, wow, yes! A Star Trek / Farscape show!
Farscape had it all: Awesome characters, each of whom was allowed to develop naturally; aliens who were alien, not just forehead-of-the-week; a nice blend of seriousness and humour; and stand-alone stories interspersed among ongoing story arcs.
I don't think I'd like to see a full-on crossover, though. Maybe a shared universe - A Federation starship exploring the region of space where John Crichton ended up and happens upon an elderly Leviathan (Moya and Pilot?), perhaps?
As for a current show to influence Star Trek; well, I'm rather partial to Bones. A great ensemble cast, excellent characters, much needed humour which offsets all the icky deaths, a lot of stand-alone shows but with threads of ongoing stories, too.
I'm also watching The Great British Sewing Bee, but I don't think that would translate well into Star Trek. Unless... The Great Federation Starship Bee?
Farscape had it all: Awesome characters, each of whom was allowed to develop naturally; aliens who were alien, not just forehead-of-the-week; a nice blend of seriousness and humour; and stand-alone stories interspersed among ongoing story arcs.
I don't think I'd like to see a full-on crossover, though. Maybe a shared universe - A Federation starship exploring the region of space where John Crichton ended up and happens upon an elderly Leviathan (Moya and Pilot?), perhaps?
As for a current show to influence Star Trek; well, I'm rather partial to Bones. A great ensemble cast, excellent characters, much needed humour which offsets all the icky deaths, a lot of stand-alone shows but with threads of ongoing stories, too.
I'm also watching The Great British Sewing Bee, but I don't think that would translate well into Star Trek. Unless... The Great Federation Starship Bee?
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This is where we just name our favourite shows, right?
Not Dr Who, please. The current show has a lot of the problems of NuTrek, chiefly frenetic, nonsensical plots.
I think Buffy is still the best example of how to deepen a show's setting and characters without betraying the initial premise. Also, Eureka is a good example of how to sustain a science-based sci-fi dramedy - it's like Fringe without the lethargic pace and depressive tone
Not Dr Who, please. The current show has a lot of the problems of NuTrek, chiefly frenetic, nonsensical plots.
I think Buffy is still the best example of how to deepen a show's setting and characters without betraying the initial premise. Also, Eureka is a good example of how to sustain a science-based sci-fi dramedy - it's like Fringe without the lethargic pace and depressive tone
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Doctor Who is more of a family show though, while Trek I believed is directed toward a more adult audience most of the time...although WHO has pushed some boundaries for the audience from time to time (Most infamously in "Love and Monsters"). Also Doctor Who has some LBGT characters, which Trek (at least in it's TV and movie versions) have largely steered clear of (With some exceptions like Deep Space Nine's Dax).
The spin-offs (both now cancelled although more to other matters than ratings or criticism such as the Starz fiasco and Elisabeth Sladen's passing) actually focused on far more adult material (Torchwood which allowed swearing, nudity and far more gore etc.) or younger audiences(Sarah Jane) although they all take place in the same continuity and for a while, crossed over.
Interesting that Buffy the Vampire Slayer is brought up, since that's one of Nuwho's influences which set it apart from the original show in some ways. Although relating it to Nutrek is a bit different, because it's actually more like The Next Generation in that it's part of the same continuity, but set a bit later in the character's timeline (With most of the 'gaps' covered somewhat by the 50th anniversary stuff ala Star Trek's Lost Years/era novels).
The spin-offs (both now cancelled although more to other matters than ratings or criticism such as the Starz fiasco and Elisabeth Sladen's passing) actually focused on far more adult material (Torchwood which allowed swearing, nudity and far more gore etc.) or younger audiences(Sarah Jane) although they all take place in the same continuity and for a while, crossed over.
Interesting that Buffy the Vampire Slayer is brought up, since that's one of Nuwho's influences which set it apart from the original show in some ways. Although relating it to Nutrek is a bit different, because it's actually more like The Next Generation in that it's part of the same continuity, but set a bit later in the character's timeline (With most of the 'gaps' covered somewhat by the 50th anniversary stuff ala Star Trek's Lost Years/era novels).
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