Credibility of The Voice

[Nerys Myk]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/taylor-swift-joins-voice-as-729344?utm_source=twitter

Taylor Swift has reportedly joined The Voice as the universal adviser

Don't know if this helps or what?

Who needs the help? Swift? The show? the OP?

 

[Taylirious]

Everyone! LOL.

 

[Star Wolf]

Talent shows have existed long before this modern incarnation of more "Reality tv" based ones. It's still the same though

Star Search, hosted by Ed McMahon served up early performances from Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake, Beyoncé, Alanis Morrisette, Christina Aguilera... And in comedy, Drew Carey, Norm McDonald, Martin Lawrence, Rosie O'Donnell, & Dave Chapelle

What you do to get a career is never as important as what you do with one. People don't even remember their beginnings on that show now, and whatever your foot in the door of beginning the social networking that builds a successful career is, you have to be ready to take advantage of it

Being successful or famous in an entertainment medium is almost never solely about how talented someone is anyhow. It's about how well they negotiate the social landscape

And from the spoof talent contest The Gong Show a decade before Star Search came Andra McArdle before Broadway, Michael Winslow before Police Academy, Cheryl Lynn and Oingo Boingo before their Disco and New Wave hits

 

[acappellasaurus]

For me, these shows serve as a media vehicle for the axiom "even a stopped clock is right twice a day". I like Clarkson, and would like to think she would have made it eventually on her own as well, the American Idol scenario just accelerated things a bit. But for every legit talent, there are a lot more that are questionable. One more recent success story I am a big fan of is the a cappella group Pentatonix, winners of the show The Sing Off. This is a massive talent, one in fact that might not have even been formed had it not been for the show. I just paid a pretty penny for front row seat to their show earlier this week, and they are a great example of reality show winners that built upon their success on a show and are now fully realized professionals. I can't speak highly enough about them.

 

[Pingfah]

I think artists make their own credibility by the music that they create, but I don't think a reality TV show is a good road to a lasting career.

It's a quick jump to the top, but people who spend years gigging and build an audience and fanbase by word of mouth and sheer hard graft, are much more assured of longevity.

 

[intrinsical]

One more recent success story I am a big fan of is the a cappella group Pentatonix, winners of the show The Sing Off. This is a massive talent, one in fact that might not have even been formed had it not been for the show. I just paid a pretty penny for front row seat to their show earlier this week, and they are a great example of reality show winners that built upon their success on a show and are now fully realized professionals. I can't speak highly enough about them.

What a coincidence, I just went for their show 3 weeks ago. Worth every cent.

PTX is a good example of a group who successfully used a "reality show competition" as a launching platform for their career. And its just a launching platform, the rest still boils down to a lot of talent and hard work.

 

[Star Wolf]

I don't see how building a fan base by Youtube and being on TV 12 or so times is worse then building a fan base by Youtube and playing bars in a city or small local circuit. You hit a level of critical mass and many people will pay a lot to see and hear you or you don't have that something special that connects and have the style setters tell the rest of the population of your greatness and you play wedding receptions as a second job

 

[Pingfah]

I don't see how building a fan base by Youtube and being on TV 12 or so times is worse then building a fan base by Youtube and playing bars in a city or small local circuit. You hit a level of critical mass and many people will pay a lot to see and hear you or you don't have that something special that connects and have the style setters tell the rest of the population of your greatness and you play wedding receptions as a second job

It's much more complicated than that. Firstly you are assuming you are reaching the same audience which ever route you choose, that's not necessarily true. A rock or folk artist, for instance, is going to attract a totally different audience on the bar and club circuit than American Idol attracts on TV. People with a real interest in music, rather than people who like to have it spoon fed to them.

Secondly, the expectations on you as an artist from your publishers and record company will be completely different if you are a sweat and blood musician than if you are trying to appease a reality TV audience. The latter might have a good deal less creative freedom, and be able to take fewer risks whilst holding onto their fanbase.

That's just two reasons, I'm sure there's many more.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

It is harder to take a show seriously when you know the prize isn't that valuable. Like, never heard of Tessanne Chin once after her victory. It's the same as The Apprentice how only the season one winner actually got a real job and everybody else's prize was 'Promote The Apprentice for a year'.

 

[Taylirious]

When it comes to The Voice, the show is pretty hands-off with the winners after the season ends (people suspect Mark Burnett only cares about the actual show itself, and not anything outside of it), and it seems like Universal Republic treats them like an obligation unless they're signed with the Nashville label. The two country winners have gotten a push. The other winners seem to get swept under the rug. The winner from two seasons ago had her album released recently to almost no fanfare.

I keep thinking about Danielle Bradbery and she is with the same label as Taylor Swift, I am surprised she wasn't helped more by this.

 

[Nerys Myk]

When it comes to The Voice, the show is pretty hands-off with the winners after the season ends (people suspect Mark Burnett only cares about the actual show itself, and not anything outside of it), and it seems like Universal Republic treats them like an obligation unless they're signed with the Nashville label. The two country winners have gotten a push. The other winners seem to get swept under the rug. The winner from two seasons ago had her album released recently to almost no fanfare.

I keep thinking about Danielle Bradbery and she is with the same label as Taylor Swift, I am surprised she wasn't helped more by this.

How would that work exactly? I suppose they could have her tour with Swift. But at the end of the day they're still in competition with each other for sales.

 

[Taylirious]

When it comes to The Voice, the show is pretty hands-off with the winners after the season ends (people suspect Mark Burnett only cares about the actual show itself, and not anything outside of it), and it seems like Universal Republic treats them like an obligation unless they're signed with the Nashville label. The two country winners have gotten a push. The other winners seem to get swept under the rug. The winner from two seasons ago had her album released recently to almost no fanfare.

I keep thinking about Danielle Bradbery and she is with the same label as Taylor Swift, I am surprised she wasn't helped more by this.

How would that work exactly? I suppose they could have her tour with Swift. But at the end of the day they're still in competition with each other for sales.

I was thinking of popping in for a few tour dates. It worked for Ed Sheeran. I had no idea who he was until he toured with TS and many Swifties didn't know about The Vamps until they did shows with her in the UK.