Could they make a film like TMP again?

[tim0122]

While I haven't seen it in a long time, I remember finding TMP to be long and painfully slow, like many but certainly not all viewers. I think I'll enjoy it more when I eventually rewatch it, but I'll still probably have issues with it.

But there's a good idea in TMP. The feel of it is very much the viewer is going on a Trek into strange unknown territory. It has a sense of discovery about it akin to Kubrick's 2001. We never really got anything quite like that again in Trek films or really from the shows from what I've seen and remember.

My question is, do you all think a studio in today's age, would greenlight a slower, less-action oriented film along the same lines of TMP but executed better?

I'm thinking not. TMP has such a negative reputation for its pacing and lack of action and Hollywood today is too focused on wham-o-blam-o big budget films to risk something as expensive as Trek be a slow movie about discovery and the unknown.

 

[Ragitsu]

Not enough cuts and/or shaky cam.

 

[Nerys Myk]

The used up all those in the trailer

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[BillJ]

As much as I love TMP, I don't want them to attempt it again, or anything like it. I don't think most modern filmmakers have the chops, nor audiences the patience.

 

[Nerys Myk]

As much as I love TMP, I don't want them to attempt it again, or anything like it. I don't think most modern filmmakers have the chops, nor audiences the patience.

It depends on the filmmaker. Many can do good, slow and thoughtful, But much like folks in '79 few in an audience for a film called "Star Trek" will be looking for that.

 

[BillJ]

It depends on the filmmaker. Many can do good, slow and thoughtful...

Let me rephrase that: I don't believe that Paramount would hire a modern filmmaker that could pull off something like TMP.

You were right to call me out!

 

[Nerys Myk]

Let me rephrase that: I don't believe that Paramount would hire a modern filmmaker that could pull off something like TMP.

You were right to call me out!

Just have to sneak one in and keep the suits away from the dailies.

 

[FredH]

While I haven't seen it in a long time, I remember finding TMP to be long and painfully slow, like many but certainly not all viewers. I think I'll enjoy it more when I eventually rewatch it, but I'll still probably have issues with it.

But there's a good idea in TMP. The feel of it is very much the viewer is going on a Trek into strange unknown territory. It has a sense of discovery about it akin to Kubrick's 2001. We never really got anything quite like that again in Trek films or really from the shows from what I've seen and remember.

My question is, do you all think a studio in today's age, would greenlight a slower, less-action oriented film along the same lines of TMP but executed better?

I'm thinking not. TMP has such a negative reputation for its pacing and lack of action and Hollywood today is too focused on wham-o-blam-o big budget films to risk something as expensive as Trek be a slow movie about discovery and the unknown.

I doubt it, but I think that’s a very sad thing. I like films that are slow enough to develop their thoughts.

 

[Frontis]

For me TMP wasn't painful.
I think the art is to make a slow movie without much action that is not boring.
Sure I think people can still make such films, maybe not in Star Trek...

 

[fireproof78]

I doubt it, but I think that’s a very sad thing. I like films that are slow enough to develop their thoughts.

I never understood why fast movies don't develop thoughts. I overanalyzed Constantine and easily do that with more actiony films.

 

[BillJ]

For me TMP wasn't painful.

It is easily my favorite Star Trek movie, and probably in my top five or ten films that I like to rewatch.

 

[ananta]

Season four of Discovery was, to me, kind of a spiritual successor to TMP and its themes. It was a good couple of episodes too long but was otherwise very well executed. It would actually have made a really good 2-2.5 hour movie if they’d stripped it down.

 

[ananta]

It is easily my favorite Star Trek movie, and probably in my top five or ten films that I like to rewatch.

Same here, I find it strangely engrossing and relaxing; if you just let it wash over you it’s a fantastic film and by far my most rewatched. The visuals and music are so beautiful.

 

[publiusr]

TMP—had it been longer (as a mini-series)-might have worked better…Better Call Saul was slow—but worked better.

Having episodes where the bridge crew is assembled (Seven Samurai style) allows things to be “loaded” perhaps less awkwardly.

 

[evilchumlee]

*A* film? Yes.

A Star Trek film? No.

 

[Nerys Myk]

*A* film? Yes.

A Star Trek film? No.

I don't see why not. Not every film being made is an MCU/Star Wars action packed SFX explosion.

 

[Frontis]

Anyway, the Kelvin movies are the opposite of a slow, more atmospheric and intellectual film.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Anyway, the Kelvin movies are the opposite of a slow, more atmospheric and intellectual film.

Yes, and?

 

[Frontis]

Yes, and?

An answer to and a thought about the original title of the thread.

 

[Nerys Myk]

An answer to and a thought about the original title of the thread.

A movie from over a decade ago? Even Beyond is close to the decade mark.

As I said, there are plenty of movies being made that aren't MCU/Star Wars SFX action. extravaganzas. Some them are even Science Fiction.

And I say this as someone who enjoyed ST'09.