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Continuing to Discover Doctor Who

I have to be honest, I think Ark in Space is rubbish. There are some good bits in it, and it was a rush job, but it's far from my favourite Holmes story. The first two episodes are atmospheric and intriguing, but the last two descent into a run of the mill monster show. It's annoying that after setting up future humanity as genetically segmented into different skill sets, they all become typical Bob Holmes wideboys by the last episode. And Kenton Moore is bloody awful throughout.
 
I've always been very fond of it. For starters, it's doing Alien (albeit on a shoestring budget with laughable effects) long before Ridley Scott came along. It has a wonderful creepy atmosphere. It has that brilliant speech by Baker. It has some great humor ("..and Harry here is only qualified to operate on sailors.") and it has two of my most favourite companions in it, coupled with my favourite doctor at the top of his game.

Not everyones cup of tea, for sure, but this one is right up there for me..
 
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Please forgive the bump.

"The Sontaran Experiment", "Genesis of The Daleks", and "The Hand of Fear" (along with "The Ark In Space") are on their way from Amazon. Expect reviews soon!

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They're heeeeere.... :D

The Sontaran Experiment

My immediate reaction: above average, though still not quite as excellent as usual. The premise was great, but I think it doesn't quite make the most of it. I would have liked to have seen more of Styre's torturing, though I can understand how it wouldn't have fitted into the runtime. In addition, I thought that the astronauts never finding Nerva was a bit unbelievable. Uh, it's in orbit, guys; that's really shouldn't be a trick for people who have colonized the galaxy.

I'll add one last thought: I found the Sontaran makeup to be an amazing letdown. Lynx looked fantastic in "The Time Warrior"; Styre actually does look like a potato.
 
They're heeeeere.... :D

I'll add one last thought: I found the Sontaran makeup to be an amazing letdown. Lynx looked fantastic in "The Time Warrior"; Styre actually does look like a potato.

Ha! You haven't seen Invasion of Time, or The Two Doctors yet. :rolleyes:

Interestignly it was the same actor who played Lynx. The costume was just redesigned to be lighter as it turned out the actor had a heart condition.

This is also the story where Tom Baker cracked his collarbone during shooting.

There's a nice behind the scenes article at: http://www.shannonsullivan.com/drwho/serials/4b.html

Actually that site has a section on pretty much every episode if you're interested in that sort of thing.
 
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^^Yeah, I read that site when I want production details right away, without waiting for the commentary/production notes! I went to find out why this story was made as two episodes; I don't think it was a good enough reason...
 
Sadly, the Sontaran makeup gets gradually worse and worse.
Which is unfortunate because I like of their stories. At least "The Sontaran Experiment"/"The Poison Sky" returns them to their former glory.
I think you mean "The Sontaran Stratagem".

I thought the Sontaran makeup was great in those two episodes. Probably the best ever. I still am uncertain about how I feel in regard to the small size though. I thought they were a bit too small. I could definitely have done without the Sontar-Ha chant.
 
Er, oops. :lol: :o

I only just got up. Still waking up. Yeah, that's my excuse...
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I was never interested in Doctor Who due the 1980's, for what ever reason it was. But I got around to watching "Genesis of the Daleks" - and thought it was awesome.
 
^Speaking of which...

Genesis of The Daleks

I'm afraid there are only so many superlatives in the English language, and none of them seem quite up to the task of describing this story. Of all the Doctor Who I've seen, only a handful have been so uniformly excellent. The writing, the acting, the direction, the lighting (especially), the design... it's all just so wonderful. I loved Davros' character, as well as how he was realized; the scene between him and the Doctor discussing the hypothetical of the virus was first-rate material. And the age-old ethical dilemma the Doctor struggles with while holding the two wires was very well-handled.

I don't know what else to say really. I loved it, much as other people seem to have loved it for years before me.
 
I was never interested in Doctor Who due the 1980's, for what ever reason it was. But I got around to watching "Genesis of the Daleks" - and thought it was awesome.

I don't think Genesis was in the 80's... ;)
 
The Seeds of Doom (Thank you, Vancouver Public Library!)

Okay, so it's not "Genesis of The Daleks". I'm still going to speak of it in the same glowing terms. Tons of fun, from beginning to end. The story of killer alien plants has serious potential to be mucked up completely, but fortunately everyone involved is at the top of their game. Characters like Scorby and Chase who could have been one-dimensional caricatures are written cleverly enough and admirably performed to make them much more interesting (Scorby in particular rises above the typical thug). Douglas Camfield, who I now consider to have been one of this show’s best directors, keeps the pace moving across six episodes tremendously well--and I had even thought going in that it was going to be a four-parter, so you can imagine how pleasantly surprised I was when, having discovered it was six, I subsequently found that it fits its runtime.

And Tom Baker. Man alive, he’s a good actor. There’s a scene in Part Two when Sarah is dragged out of the room by Scorby and Keeler with the Doctor left helpless and tied up; he screams out her name, and Baker puts an incredible amount of anxiety into the line. That got me. And the rest of the story is just like that: even with the sometimes-ridiculous sight of plants gobbling people up, he sells the danger right from the get-go by showing you how agitated, worried, and really just simply panicked the Doctor is. If he’s that scared, what does that mean for the rest of us?

The Hand of Fear

Another great story. I loved the weird creepiness in the earlier parts, and there was still an uneasy mysterious feeling that was kept up well in the latter half. It also felt like a very original adventure, though I have to be honest in saying that I don’t know if something like it was done before in Doctor Who. Tom Baker is again at the very top of his game. He impressed me a lot before with his comic timing, and now I’m beginning to have respect for him in those dramatic moments. Sad to see Sarah Jane leave, but it was also very well done. Nothing but compliments for this story, and the one above. Sorry if that’s a bit tedious for anyone to read. :)

Unfortunately, the library didn’t have “The Deadly Assassin” on the shelf where it was supposed to be when I went to pick up “The Seeds of Doom”; they put it on ‘Trace’, which means I’ll probably never get to see just why the Time Lords were calling the Doctor until the DVD release. :(
 
I have to be honest, I think Ark in Space is rubbish. There are some good bits in it, and it was a rush job, but it's far from my favourite Holmes story. The first two episodes are atmospheric and intriguing, but the last two descent into a run of the mill monster show. It's annoying that after setting up future humanity as genetically segmented into different skill sets, they all become typical Bob Holmes wideboys by the last episode. And Kenton Moore is bloody awful throughout.
I couldn't disagree more. Not that I like sentient insects -- I don't care for any insects. But this story reaches right into that part of the human psyche that is instinctively scared of creepy crawly things like these and has a field day.

I recommend reading the novelization by Ian Marter (the actor who played Harry Sullivan). Marter novelized quite a few Who stories, and did it very well. I have vivid memories of reading his novelization of The Ark in Space while I was having supper in my college cafeteria just before my evening anthropology class. The description of all the goo and ooze and munching on and digesting dead colonists nearly made me lose my supper! :eek:

They're heeeeere.... :D

The Sontaran Experiment

My immediate reaction: above average, though still not quite as excellent as usual. The premise was great, but I think it doesn't quite make the most of it. I would have liked to have seen more of Styre's torturing, though I can understand how it wouldn't have fitted into the runtime. In addition, I thought that the astronauts never finding Nerva was a bit unbelievable. Uh, it's in orbit, guys; that's really shouldn't be a trick for people who have colonized the galaxy.

I'll add one last thought: I found the Sontaran makeup to be an amazing letdown. Lynx looked fantastic in "The Time Warrior"; Styre actually does look like a potato.
Ian Marter also novelized this story and fleshed it out quite a bit. :)

But what's with the potato-bashing? Potatoes are cute!
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The Seeds of Doom (Thank you, Vancouver Public Library!)

Okay, so it's not "Genesis of The Daleks". I'm still going to speak of it in the same glowing terms. Tons of fun, from beginning to end. The story of killer alien plants has serious potential to be mucked up completely, but fortunately everyone involved is at the top of their game. Characters like Scorby and Chase who could have been one-dimensional caricatures are written cleverly enough and admirably performed to make them much more interesting (Scorby in particular rises above the typical thug). Douglas Camfield, who I now consider to have been one of this show’s best directors, keeps the pace moving across six episodes tremendously well--and I had even thought going in that it was going to be a four-parter, so you can imagine how pleasantly surprised I was when, having discovered it was six, I subsequently found that it fits its runtime.

And Tom Baker. Man alive, he’s a good actor. There’s a scene in Part Two when Sarah is dragged out of the room by Scorby and Keeler with the Doctor left helpless and tied up; he screams out her name, and Baker puts an incredible amount of anxiety into the line. That got me. And the rest of the story is just like that: even with the sometimes-ridiculous sight of plants gobbling people up, he sells the danger right from the get-go by showing you how agitated, worried, and really just simply panicked the Doctor is. If he’s that scared, what does that mean for the rest of us?

Yes, another classic. Always good to see Camp Freddy as a supervillain - obviously he got off the bus with his share of the gold. My reservation is that after setting up the near-indestructability of the Krynoid, they just get the RAF to bomb it, and all is well. Still a great yarn, but a slightly underwhelming climax. Some very gruesome stuff as well!

The Hand of Fear

Another great story. I loved the weird creepiness in the earlier parts, and there was still an uneasy mysterious feeling that was kept up well in the latter half. It also felt like a very original adventure, though I have to be honest in saying that I don’t know if something like it was done before in Doctor Who. Tom Baker is again at the very top of his game. He impressed me a lot before with his comic timing, and now I’m beginning to have respect for him in those dramatic moments. Sad to see Sarah Jane leave, but it was also very well done. Nothing but compliments for this story, and the one above. Sorry if that’s a bit tedious for anyone to read. :)

Yep, a solid Baker & Martin story, with a contractually obliged nuclear power station. Lots of fun with the 'Eldrad must live' stuff early on, and the hand is surprisingly well realised. Shame about the last episode when Eldrad becomes a typical Stephen Thorne shouty man.

Unfortunately, the library didn’t have “The Deadly Assassin” on the shelf where it was supposed to be when I went to pick up “The Seeds of Doom”; they put it on ‘Trace’, which means I’ll probably never get to see just why the Time Lords were calling the Doctor until the DVD release. :(

Seek it out! A very good story, which sets up a few future Baker stories.
 
But I got around to watching "Genesis of the Daleks" - and thought it was awesome.

I don't think Genesis was in the 80's... ;)

I never said it was made during the 1980's. When it screened in the UK I wasn't even 12 months. Heck I have no idea when it screened here in Australia.

Anyways, so far I've watched all the serials that featured Davros and a few others. Keeping a list what I've watched. Next is Black Orchid, as I'm a cricket nut.

Finally, the Fourth Doctor is quickly becoming my favourite of the older doctors.
 
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