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Commentary on the current state of Star Wars continuity(some spoilers)

Re: Commentary on the current state of Star Wars continuity(some spoil

We all have midichlorians!?! Wow, let me see if I can levitate my desk.

Hmm, dang. I don't think those midichlorians work as advertised. Now I'm even more pissed off!!! :rommie:

Well, everybody had them, down to the humblest animals (and probably plants). It's just that people strong in the Force had a shit-ton more of them.
 
Re: Commentary on the current state of Star Wars continuity(some spoil

EU Fan: Lord Lucas what about Anakin having an apprentice and the Mandalorians?

George Lucas: Anakin always had an apprentice and Mandalorians are pacifists now.

EU Fan: That was never part of the continuity!

George Lucas: Perhaps you feel your are being treated unfairly.

EU Fan: No my Lord.

George Lucas: Good. It would be unfortunate if I were to make Kiffar and Dathomir the same planet.

EU Fan: This continuity is getting worse all the time...

George Lucas: Furthermore Quinlan Vos is a surfer dude.

EU Fan: That was never part of the continuity...

George Lucas: I am altering the continuity, pray I do not alter it further.

EU Fan: this continuity is getting worse all...

George Lucas: Also! Darth Maul was born on Dathomir and the Nightsisters rasied him!

EU Fan: That...

George Lucas: I am altering the continuity, pray I do not alter it further.

EU Fan: This continutiy is...

George Lucas: Also. Darth Maul is alive!

EU Fan: ...

George Lucas: I am altering the continuity! Pray I do not alter it further!

EU Fan: ...This continuity...

George Lucas: The Force is now a Divine Trinity!

EU Fan: ..........

George Lucas: I am altering the continuity, pray I do not alter it further.

EU Fan: ...This continuity is very nice and I'm happy to enjoy it.

Lucas: Zahn. Take Admiral Thrawn and the Solo kids to my ship.

Zahn: You said they'd be left in the EU under my creative control!

Lucas: I am altering our deal pray I don't alter it any further.

Seriously though. Between The Clone Wars and The Old Republic, it's clear that Lucas no longer wants your business if you're over seven years old. So why impose? Maybe if this kiddie-only approach cuts into the profits, he'll open Star Wars up for everyone again.
 
Re: Commentary on the current state of Star Wars continuity(some spoil

Knights of the Old Republic author John Jackson Miller weighs in:
What the “Expanded Universe” means is that, while all those books and comics from Bonanza to The Beverly Hillbillies were basically just one more licensed product, interchangeable with a T-shirt as far as the relevance of their events on the original were concerned, things that happened in the Star Wars novels were regarded as having happened to the characters.

And the comics. And the cartoons, the role-playing games, the video games, and online fiction. Even the descriptions on the backs of action figure packages! It’s all part of the canon. It all matters. There’s no pecking order; it’s all part of the larger picture.

It’s meant a lot to the license, which we can get into later here: it’s kept interest high, long after the closing credits on Episode III ran. Other licensors, like Bioware with Mass Effect, have been doing the same thing. It takes work, but it pays off in reader interest.

So I learned there were no silly questions in Star Wars. And that always — always — someone was out there with the answers. It’s because of wonderful people at Lucasfilm like Leland Chee, the “keeper of the Holocron,” who keeps tabs on everything. But it’s also because of the fans, who keep track of everything and who demand — almost always, kindly! — consistency in the fictional universe that they love. Nothing is trivial; everyone wants to know what that thing is in the background. (On my own site, I actually do liner notes from every work, clarifying some of those things.) This kind of intense interest and interplay has its benefits and pitfalls.
 
Re: Commentary on the current state of Star Wars continuity(some spoil

Knights of the Old Republic author John Jackson Miller weighs in:
And the comics. And the cartoons, the role-playing games, the video games, and online fiction. Even the descriptions on the backs of action figure packages! It’s all part of the canon. It all matters.

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Re: Commentary on the current state of Star Wars continuity(some spoil

Look at Anakin, he's a random person with a high midiclorian count.

Anakin's conception is supposed to be a special case. He had no father. It is possible that the Sith created him, but even if he was created by the midichlorians ( or the Force ) without the Sith being involved, it's not the same thing as the random appearance of Force-sensitives in the population, and the count is substantially higher.
 
Re: Commentary on the current state of Star Wars continuity(some spoil

Mystical doesn't have to be random people. Mystical means unexplained, supernatural.

Mystical is just hooey with inexplicable rules. Makes equal sense for families to have mystical connections than not. It's however you want to make the rules work. It's not like science, where even in sci fi, you should try to make some sort of sense or at least attempt plausibility.
 
Re: Commentary on the current state of Star Wars continuity(some spoil

Professor Zoom said:
and yes, it might be biological, but that doesn't mean people understand HOW the connection works, ie, midiclorians.

The midichlorians themselves still have a mystical connection to the Force.

Knights of the Old Republic author John Jackson Miller weighs in:
And the comics. And the cartoons, the role-playing games, the video games, and online fiction. Even the descriptions on the backs of action figure packages! It’s all part of the canon. It all matters.

Don't forget the OT-era Burger King glasses. They are canon as all get-out.
 
Re: Commentary on the current state of Star Wars continuity(some spoil

Mystical doesn't have to be random people. Mystical means unexplained, supernatural.

Mystical is just hooey with inexplicable rules. Makes equal sense for families to have mystical connections than not. It's however you want to make the rules work. It's not like science, where even in sci fi, you should try to make some sort of sense or at least attempt plausibility.

Exactly. Just like techno babble is hooey with made up rules.

And it's not like Star Wars is sci-fi, it's more sci-fantasy, more on the fantasy than the science.

In the end, I don't care that strongly about the midiclorians, I just feel no explanation is better than the one that we got.
 
Re: Commentary on the current state of Star Wars continuity(some spoil

Well I should have also, that whatever the hooey rules are, they need to make internal sense. Like:

If there's no actual Dark Side, then why do Jedi and Sith think there's a Dark Side, or at the very least, keep taking about it that way (delusion? propaganda?) Stuff like that has to be thought through so you don't run into internal contradictions.

The midichlorians are a different issue. They don't mean anything, so there's no contradiction. But the term sounds like technobabble, which isn't Star Wars' thing, so it's as jarring as if they suddenly decided to do a reset-button time travel story.
 
Re: Commentary on the current state of Star Wars continuity(some spoil

The midichlorians are a different issue. They don't mean anything, so there's no contradiction. But the term sounds like technobabble, which isn't Star Wars' thing, so it's as jarring as if they suddenly decided to do a reset-button time travel story.

Yes. That's a great way of saying it.
 
Re: Commentary on the current state of Star Wars continuity(some spoil

The midichlorians are a different issue. They don't mean anything, so there's no contradiction. But the term sounds like technobabble, which isn't Star Wars' thing, so it's as jarring as if they suddenly decided to do a reset-button time travel story.

Yes. That's a great way of saying it.

Lawrence Kasdan said:
HAN: Horizontal boosters...!

(Chewie barks)

HAN: Alluvial dampers...! Well that's not it.

* * *

THREEPIO: Sir, I don't know where your ship learned to communicate, but it has the most peculiar dialect. I believe, sir, it says that the power coupling on the negative axis has been polarized. I'm afraid you'll have to replace it.

* * *

THREEPIO: Sir, sir! I've isolated the reverse power flux coupling.

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Re: Commentary on the current state of Star Wars continuity(some spoil

Lawrence Kasdan said:
HAN: Horizontal boosters...!

(Chewie barks)

HAN: Alluvial dampers...! Well that's not it.

* * *

THREEPIO: Sir, I don't know where your ship learned to communicate, but it has the most peculiar dialect. I believe, sir, it says that the power coupling on the negative axis has been polarized. I'm afraid you'll have to replace it.

* * *

THREEPIO: Sir, sir! I've isolated the reverse power flux coupling.

r2d2.gif
Ah, but that's not the same thing. In the Star Trek universe, technobabble is a way of saying "I have a solution!". In the Star Wars universe, technobabble is a way of saying "we're doomed!"
 
Re: Commentary on the current state of Star Wars continuity(some spoil

Wait, Midichlorians are basically tiny bacteria right?? Does that mean that a jedi's worse enemy is actually penicillin??

And why do we need to have Midichlorians in Star Wars anyways?? Obi-wan and Yoda gave a pretty good description of the nature of the force.

An energy field that people with the right training can tap into. Simple
 
Re: Commentary on the current state of Star Wars continuity(some spoil

If there's no actual Dark Side, then why do Jedi and Sith think there's a Dark Side, or at the very least, keep taking about it that way (delusion? propaganda?)

Because there is an actual dark side. While some authors have engaged in revisionism, others have continued to support the traditional Lucas view.

Capt Pickirk said:
And why do we need to have Midichlorians in Star Wars anyways?? Obi-wan and Yoda gave a pretty good description of the nature of the force.

Midichlorians are not the Force. They are just the story behind inherited Force sensitivity.

it's as jarring as if they suddenly decided to do a reset-button time travel story.

That would be much more jarring than simply naming and qualifying something we already knew about from ROTJ.
 
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