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Commentary on the current state of Star Wars continuity(some spoilers)

Re: Commentary on the current state of Star Wars continuity(some spoil

the man who single handedly wiped out the Jedi
Come again?
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Re: Commentary on the current state of Star Wars continuity(some spoil

"Dark Empire" is one of the very early Expanded Universe comics from Dark Horse (It in fact began as a marvel project) and is somewhat dated. They've improved considerably since then. Two of the prequel characters they created for the comics were actually integrated into the films and Clone Wars (Quinlan Vos and Aayla Secura).


DE's main lasting effect is that it also brings back Boba Fett (The Emperor is finished off in "Empire's End") who survived the Sarlacc due to his armor. It's also the first time Leia really embraces her Jedi heritage, although that's largely ignored by the following novels until the NJO.

DE also laid the foundation for the Tales of the Jedi comics and Knights of the Old Republic, as it dwelves a bit into ancient Jedi history.
 
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Oh good. Sounds like the author has some taste then.
Just read the damn wonderful books already! :p

I'm saving them for the long hiatus between the end of this season of TCW and the fall premiere of S4. :D

But I guess if Obi-Wan et al can be Force ghosts and stick around post-mortem, why shouldn't the Sith be able to, too?
Because Jedi can become one with the force only if they're at peace at the end, and the Sith can never be at peace cause they're full of anger?
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I thought people come back as ghosts because they're angry. Being at peace should mean you go away and stop telling all the living people what they should be doing all the time. You're dead, and finally out of the strife of living. It's the Sith who'd never accept death and keep trying to stir up shit.
 
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But I guess if Obi-Wan et al can be Force ghosts and stick around post-mortem, why shouldn't the Sith be able to, too?
Because Jedi can become one with the force only if they're at peace at the end, and the Sith can never be at peace cause they're full of anger?
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What about Exar Kun??? Does he count??
 
Re: Commentary on the current state of Star Wars continuity(some spoil

Exar Kun is a character from the Tales of The Jedi comics and also the Jedi Academy trilogy (As well as the tie-in novel I, Jedi). Basically, he's an ancient Sith lord (Who used a double-bladed saber years before a similar concept was used for Darth Maul) whose spirit got stuck in a temple on Yavin IV after one of the Sith wars, and later he returned to mess around with Luke and his 'first class' of Jedi.
 
Re: Commentary on the current state of Star Wars continuity(some spoil

Posted by GenAntilles over at theforce.net boards...

EU Fan: Lord Lucas what about Anakin having an apprentice and the Mandalorians?

George Lucas: Anakin always had an apprentice and Mandalorians are pacifists now.

EU Fan: That was never part of the continuity!

George Lucas: Perhaps you feel your are being treated unfairly.

EU Fan: No my Lord.

George Lucas: Good. It would be unfortunate if I were to make Kiffar and Dathomir the same planet.

EU Fan: This continuity is getting worse all the time...

George Lucas: Furthermore Quinlan Vos is a surfer dude.

EU Fan: That was never part of the continuity...

George Lucas: I am altering the continuity, pray I do not alter it further.

EU Fan: this continuity is getting worse all...

George Lucas: Also! Darth Maul was born on Dathomir and the Nightsisters rasied him!

EU Fan: That...

George Lucas: I am altering the continuity, pray I do not alter it further.

EU Fan: This continutiy is...

George Lucas: Also. Darth Maul is alive!

EU Fan: ...

George Lucas: I am altering the continuity! Pray I do not alter it further!

EU Fan: ...This continuity...

George Lucas: The Force is now a Divine Trinity!

EU Fan: ..........

George Lucas: I am altering the continuity, pray I do not alter it further.

EU Fan: ...This continuity is very nice and I'm happy to enjoy it.
Given everything that's happened since the beginning of the animated series, (Ahsoka, the Mandarians, the timeline, Ventress, Vos, the Hutts, Dathomir, and now Maul) I have to ask...
Why does Lucas seem to think the Star Wars story is a work in progress, and he can just rewrite things as he goes along. There are some things that are already established. They can't be overwritten now. They weren't the first draft that can now be thrown out.

Of course you could argue it's been like this ever since George decided the original film was Episode IV...
Seriously, all that has happened? Where? That is so crazy. Glad I stopped being into the EU a few years back.
 
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^ In the new Clone Wars cartoon.
 
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Man, each of those things sounds terrible. GL said that TCW is Star Wars? He chooses the project most geared towards young children and with low production values? That's hilarious!
 
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But I guess if Obi-Wan et al can be Force ghosts and stick around post-mortem, why shouldn't the Sith be able to, too?
Because Jedi can become one with the force only if they're at peace at the end, and the Sith can never be at peace cause they're full of anger?
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What about Exar Kun??? Does he count??

They are not part of the Force like the Jedi ones.

They are the minds of the dark lords bound to the living world.
 
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Look if you created something, and then later decided to revisit it, you would not care about what others have done with your heritage...
Imagine you were to write a new TREK series, leave it after season 1 and then come back to it in it's 3rd season. You would not give a damn about what happened in season 2, promised!
 
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Imagine you were to write a new TREK series, leave it after season 1 and then come back to it in it's 3rd season. You would not give a damn about what happened in season 2, promised!
That's exactly what happened in Enterprise, sadly. Berman and Braga left the show in Manny Coto's hands at the end of season 3, only to return for the series finale, with a script that basically ignored all of season 4.
 
Re: Commentary on the current state of Star Wars continuity(some spoil

Oh, and didn't someone mention that George has made references to the Nightsisters and Dathomir in the cartoon? They originated in the old EU novel The Courtship of Princess Leia, so at least there's a chance that's still applicable.

Except for the fact that ( as usual ) the TCW version is inconsistent with the EU version. It's the all-too-familiar scenario: "There's a planet called Dathomir with some Force witches? And they're called Nightsisters? KEWL! We can use that!" Forgetting all about the light side ones, the rancors, Gethzerion, etc.

capt Pickirk said:
If Lucas hadn't screwed up the force in the first place we wouldn't have a reason to constantly complai

The midichlorians don't "screw up the Force". They merely screw with the expectations of those who can't handle words with more than three syllables. Biologically inherited Force sensitivity originated in the OT, and now we know a little more about it -- the sensitivity, that is. The nature of the Force itself ( addressed in ANH and TESB but not in the PT ) remains unchanged.
 
Re: Commentary on the current state of Star Wars continuity(some spoil

Because Jedi can become one with the force only if they're at peace at the end, and the Sith can never be at peace cause they're full of anger?
eusashifty7422252.gif

What about Exar Kun??? Does he count??

They are not part of the Force like the Jedi ones.

They are the minds of the dark lords bound to the living world.

This is the point where I start to think, "it's best not to pay attention to novels because they MAKE EVERYTHING TOO COMPLICATED!" :rommie:

This is Star Wars. It should be simple, like a fable. You gotcher Jedi, you gotcher Sith. Jedi = good, Sith = evil. Everyone uses the Force. You wanna use the Force? Choose which side yer on. Otherwise, take your lightsaber and go home.
 
Re: Commentary on the current state of Star Wars continuity(some spoil

Oh, and didn't someone mention that George has made references to the Nightsisters and Dathomir in the cartoon? They originated in the old EU novel The Courtship of Princess Leia, so at least there's a chance that's still applicable.

Except for the fact that ( as usual ) the TCW version is inconsistent with the EU version. It's the all-too-familiar scenario: "There's a planet called Dathomir with some Force witches? And they're called Nightsisters? KEWL! We can use that!" Forgetting all about the light side ones, the rancors, Gethzerion, etc.

It's that different? Oh, no. That does not sound good at all. I prefer my SW continuity the way it is without Lucas buggering things up even more.
 
Re: Commentary on the current state of Star Wars continuity(some spoil

Oh, and didn't someone mention that George has made references to the Nightsisters and Dathomir in the cartoon? They originated in the old EU novel The Courtship of Princess Leia, so at least there's a chance that's still applicable.

Except for the fact that ( as usual ) the TCW version is inconsistent with the EU version. It's the all-too-familiar scenario: "There's a planet called Dathomir with some Force witches? And they're called Nightsisters? KEWL! We can use that!" Forgetting all about the light side ones, the rancors, Gethzerion, etc.

capt Pickirk said:
If Lucas hadn't screwed up the force in the first place we wouldn't have a reason to constantly complai

The midichlorians don't "screw up the Force". They merely screw with the expectations of those who can't handle words with more than three syllables. Biologically inherited Force sensitivity originated in the OT, and now we know a little more about it -- the sensitivity, that is. The nature of the Force itself ( addressed in ANH and TESB but not in the PT ) remains unchanged.

My only complaint with the midichlorians is that it explains something that mystical. And cool because of it. I totally believe the idea of biologically inheritance to Force sensitivity. That's fine. But to try and attach it to some sort of biological pseudo-scientific explanation falls flat for me. Pseudo-science is basically magic anyway. Better to have left it unexplained and beyond science.

Perhaps, better said this way, the explanation was so disappointing, I would rather have had no explanation. Maybe with a better one, I don't know...

I just sorta ignore it...

It's that different? Oh, no. That does not sound good at all. I prefer my SW continuity the way it is without Lucas buggering things up even more.

Then I guess you'll stop watching the Clone Wars then...
 
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