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comedy in early TNG ?

I don't remember that. What episode is it from?

"Sub Rosa", he told a guy: "You're obviously not scotch yourself." :lol:


Unfortunately, it was the highlight of the entire episode...

Actually, the highlight of that episode was that it focused on Crusher. That, and only that. Everything else about it was forgettable.

Including Picard's remark, apparently.

So I take it that you have a crush on Crusher...;)
 
"Sub Rosa", he told a guy: "You're obviously not scotch yourself." :lol:


Unfortunately, it was the highlight of the entire episode...

Actually, the highlight of that episode was that it focused on Crusher. That, and only that. Everything else about it was forgettable.

Including Picard's remark, apparently.

So I take it that you have a crush on Crusher...;)

When I was 17, and the show was new, absolutely. It helped color my hatred of Pulaski quite a bit. These days, I just hate Pulaski because she irritates me as a Bones knock-ff, and not a very good one.

I just think the writers could have focused more episodes on her though. Sub Rosa may have been shit, but it gave her center stage. For that, I can forgive a bad script. On the other hand, "Remember Me" is a favorite because, yeah, it gives her center stage again, but it's also a good story.
 
Actually, the highlight of that episode was that it focused on Crusher. That, and only that. Everything else about it was forgettable.

Including Picard's remark, apparently.

So I take it that you have a crush on Crusher...;)

When I was 17, and the show was new, absolutely. It helped color my hatred of Pulaski quite a bit. These days, I just hate Pulaski because she irritates me as a Bones knock-ff, and not a very good one.

I just think the writers could have focused more episodes on her though. Sub Rosa may have been shit, but it gave her center stage. For that, I can forgive a bad script. On the other hand, "Remember Me" is a favorite because, yeah, it gives her center stage again, but it's also a good story.
I like "Remember Me" because for most of the episode you're wondering what the hell is going on! Of course that only works the first time you see it.
 
While I didn't lol at the whole episode. I found things to be light hearted and jovial. While I get why people didn't like Piscapo, I think his character does just what he's meant to. Instruct Data in comedy. Of his(our) time. I thought it was a nice jab at what people as a whole find funny and unfunny.
 
if they wanted to show us what being unfunny was, they've succeeded beyond reproach. Unfortunately the writer also showed what it was to be untalented as well.
 
TNG attempted a lot of humor in the early seasons, just not a lot of it was funny. Much of it was base and outdated, much just hackneyed and stupid, mostly revolving around uncharming men easily getting tail.

The Outrageous Okona did a horrible job with humor. The whole episode with Joe Piscopo. It's like if an alien were attempting to describe human humor to another alien. Only it was written by a human.

The Royale I found was a genuinely funny early comedy episode. "Listen kid, I don't want to see you get hurt. Not over a dame." "DON'T CALL HER THAT!" That was a fun parody of bad literature. Unintentionally, what it was parodying was about on par with some the early season writing.

Much of season 1 and 2 reference human cultures or aspects of human cultures with a hostile attitude toward those cultures, and the only reason it's less offensive in the Royale is that it's given a second layer of fictionality.

The humor got a lot better in season 3. The humor turned more to character humor arisen from the situation, such as various lines in Deja Q, and less from the kind of base sexuality of the first two seasons.
 
TNG attempted a lot of humor in the early seasons, just not a lot of it was funny. Much of it was base and outdated, much just hackneyed and stupid, mostly revolving around uncharming men easily getting tail.

The Outrageous Okona did a horrible job with humor. The whole episode with Joe Piscopo. It's like if an alien were attempting to describe human humor to another alien. Only it was written by a human.

The Royale I found was a genuinely funny early comedy episode. "Listen kid, I don't want to see you get hurt. Not over a dame." "DON'T CALL HER THAT!" That was a fun parody of bad literature. Unintentionally, what it was parodying was about on par with some the early season writing.

Much of season 1 and 2 reference human cultures or aspects of human cultures with a hostile attitude toward those cultures, and the only reason it's less offensive in the Royale is that it's given a second layer of fictionality.

The humor got a lot better in season 3. The humor turned more to character humor arisen from the situation, such as various lines in Deja Q, and less from the kind of base sexuality of the first two seasons.
When I see Joe Piscopo in this episode, I understand why he was fired from SNL.
 
When I was 17, and the show was new, absolutely. It helped color my hatred of Pulaski quite a bit. These days, I just hate Pulaski because she irritates me as a Bones knock-ff, and not a very good one.

Pulaski was a Bones type character in the same way Data was a Spock like character. I don't see how that could piss you off. Pulaski was the only character that ever questioned anything that went on on that ship. She added much needed drama. She may have been Data's antagonist at the beginning, much like the Mccoy/Spock relationship. But unlike the latter Pulaski was Data's biggest advocate by the end of the season. Their relationship grew. Pulaski was especially interesting because she had relashionships with a number of the crew, including Worf and Geordi.

In comparison Crush is bland. I don't see what you could find great about her beyond what Roddenberry called a strip queen walk. Crusher was eye candy, a mother figure, and Picards love interest rolled into one. All of which were really stereotypical female roles. Such she had some chutzpah sometimes, but very little in the way of personality until the 6th season when she started to reveal some interest in command. Thank you Jerri Taylor.

And there's why there are few Crusher centric episodes. There was nothing to write around her because there was nothing interesting about her except how she related to other men: son, Picard, dead husband. Pulaski was a real female character with none of that baggage. She made her presence felt on her own and that's probably because she took on the qualities of a stereotypical male role, ei Pseudo McCoy. But more than McCoy. She was great and, like Tasha, I was very sad to see her go.
 
When I was 17, and the show was new, absolutely. It helped color my hatred of Pulaski quite a bit. These days, I just hate Pulaski because she irritates me as a Bones knock-ff, and not a very good one.

Pulaski was a Bones type character in the same way Data was a Spock like character. I don't see how that could piss you off. Pulaski was the only character that ever questioned anything that went on on that ship. She added much needed drama. She may have been Data's antagonist at the beginning, much like the Mccoy/Spock relationship. But unlike the latter Pulaski was Data's biggest advocate by the end of the season. Their relationship grew. Pulaski was especially interesting because she had relashionships with a number of the crew, including Worf and Geordi.

In comparison Crush is bland. I don't see what you could find great about her beyond what Roddenberry called a strip queen walk. Crusher was eye candy, a mother figure, and Picards love interest rolled into one. All of which were really stereotypical female roles. Such she had some chutzpah sometimes, but very little in the way of personality until the 6th season when she started to reveal some interest in command. Thank you Jerri Taylor.

And there's why there are few Crusher centric episodes. There was nothing to write around her because there was nothing interesting about her except how she related to other men: son, Picard, dead husband. Pulaski was a real female character with none of that baggage. She made her presence felt on her own and that's probably because she took on the qualities of a stereotypical male role, ei Pseudo McCoy. But more than McCoy. She was great and, like Tasha, I was very sad to see her go.

I agree, Pulaski felt like a female version of McCoy, and not a bad one, I might add.
 
I liked Pulaski. If the show were a futuristic medical drama, she could have carried the show better than Crusher. But it was an ensemble cast and Crusher had chemistry with the cast and Pulaski didn't.
 
While I didn't lol at the whole episode. I found things to be light hearted and jovial. While I get why people didn't like Piscapo, I think his character does just what he's meant to. Instruct Data in comedy. Of his(our) time. I thought it was a nice jab at what people as a whole find funny and unfunny.
Yeah. It's funny how much hate is piled on Piscopo. He was created by the computer for an android who selected at random from a list. He could have been the funniest comedian ever (to us) and Data still would have not gotten it. That was what made it funny.
 
While I didn't lol at the whole episode. I found things to be light hearted and jovial. While I get why people didn't like Piscapo, I think his character does just what he's meant to. Instruct Data in comedy. Of his(our) time. I thought it was a nice jab at what people as a whole find funny and unfunny.
Yeah. It's funny how much hate is piled on Piscopo. He was created by the computer for an android who selected at random from a list. He could have been the funniest comedian ever (to us) and Data still would have not gotten it. That was what made it funny.
I think the problem is that everything falls flat in this episode, everything!
 
Piscopo is a symbol of how out of touch with pop culture Trek has always been. Whether its ridiculous depictions of hippies on TOS or the fact that all the culture in TNG onward is classical music and Shakespeare as if nothing happened in nearly 1000 years. Piscopo was considered a major hack at the time. The only worse pick would have been Andrew Clay. It's just a sign of cluelessness from a very stodgy property.
 
Piscopo is a symbol of how out of touch with pop culture Trek has always been. Whether its ridiculous depictions of hippies on TOS or the fact that all the culture in TNG onward is classical music and Shakespeare as if nothing happened in nearly 1000 years. Piscopo was considered a major hack at the time. The only worse pick would have been Andrew Clay. It's just a sign of cluelessness from a very stodgy property.
I agree about the space hippies, they were not only ridiculous they were also malignant, something I've never known the real hippies to be. It would be like making a film showing rabbits attacking people.:lol:

I like classical music and Shakespeare but I am conscious that it's not for everyone. Maybe they put too much of them on TNG.

Piscopo is definitely a hack which makes me wonder how he manages to be in this business at all. Who the hell pays to see that????
 
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