Spoilers Combined Star Trek SDCC Coverage thread (potential Disco S2 spoilers)

Discussion in 'Future of Trek' started by ITDUDE, Jul 18, 2019.

  1. WarpFactorZ

    WarpFactorZ Commodore Commodore

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    Note that 5843 days corresponds to 16ish years. Perhaps the armada Picard led was to save the Romulans from a Borg incursion?
     
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  2. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Yeah I've seen that theory, it makes sense.
     
  3. ITDUDE

    ITDUDE Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Think of it this way. PIC is definitely a sequel to TNG, it owns it's existence to TNG. So they are going to have some elements (highly popular at that) from that era to start for sure.
    But I guarantee you, Borg is not the main plot of the whole PIC show. Once they kick off the show and get the Borg subplot out of the way, we'll see what PIC is really all about.
     
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  4. WarpFactorZ

    WarpFactorZ Commodore Commodore

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    Will they tie the Borg to the Hobus supernova too? Maybe in a final Hail Mary move, the Borg destroy Romulus' star.
     
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  5. ITDUDE

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    I'm thinking something like that did happen. This could also explain why Romulans have no issues stripping Borg for tech
     
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  6. fireproof78

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    Forcing Picard to revisit the Borg is cruel. We had the sequel to the Borg. It was all wrapped for the story. It feels unnecessary and mean spirited.
     
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  7. ITDUDE

    ITDUDE Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Universe is not all roses and dandelions, sometimes it is cruel.
    But you should see the glee on Picard's face when he says "Engage"
    It's pretty clear from the trailer he misses being in space. If it takes Borg to get him into space and on another starship, I think Picard is ok with that.
     
  8. fireproof78

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    No, the universe is not all roses and dandelions. Did I claim that? No, I did not.

    But, when writing a story about an iconic character it strikes me as highly insensitive, at best, to be like, "Here, let's revisit one of your most traumatic experiences." It also feels like very much like a nostalgia check list. None of which inspires me for good story telling, or even treating Picard in a way that acknowledges his past struggles with any sort of seriousness.

    Sorry, it comes across as highly mean spirited by the writers to be like "Hey, Picard hasn't seen the Borg in a while. He should say 'Hi' to his old friends."

    I'm glad everyone is excited for the Borg. I'm not.
     
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  9. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Are you still going to watch it though? For all you know you could be wrong.
     
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  10. fireproof78

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    Yes, because Romulans.

    Of course I could be wrong. I usually am. I'm married.
     
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  11. Danlav05

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    PCD from day 1 has been a sequel to TNG - it brings back the central character played by the same actor as in all 178 episodes, 4 movies and 10 video games.

    It's as much of a sequel to TNG as the four movies were - plot threads from the show and Nemesis are followed on from.

    it looks like there at least three internal conflicts Picard is dealing with (that trailer had A LOT to unpack - my brain is still trying to deal with it) the death of Data; destruction of Romulus and now this Borg thing (during/straight after the destruction? Somewhat connected?) - it looks like someone has locked up a load of ex-Borg in fear of them assimilating everyone again
     
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  12. CorporalClegg

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    When done right, the Borg is the single best thing Star Trek has in its toolbox.
     
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  13. fireproof78

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    Agree to disagree.
     
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  15. rahullak

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    All that's missing is Q.
     
  16. DaveyNY

    DaveyNY Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    My bad ...
    Apologies all around.
    I was mostly attempting to be funny rather than snarky.
     
  17. fireproof78

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    There is no need for Q.

    Save, perhaps, as a coda at the very end. Maybe.
     
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  18. Tuskin38

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    Eh, I don't think so. Or maybe a new version of it.
     
  19. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    He's a fictional character. Putting him through shit is what he's there for.

    I was on record as being of the "Anything but the damn Borg again!" camp, but now that I've seen the trailer, my attitude is...okay, they're going there, let's see what they do with it.
     
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  20. DaveyNY

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    Locutus was the most traumatic event in Picard's life.
    Ignoring it while trying to show how he has dealt with life's ups & downs for the last 20-something years would be kinda silly.
     
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