Spoilers Coda: Book 3: Oblivion's Gate by David Mack Review Thread

[Newspaper Taxi]

Does any one have a vague notion of having read a series of interconnected Star Trek books over the last decade? I could have sworn I had, but the books seem to have erased themselves from my shelf...

EDIT: What even is this thread?

 

[hbquikcomjamesl]

Does any one have a vague notion of having read a series of interconnected Star Trek books over the last decade? I could have sworn I had, but the books seem to have erased themselves from my shelf...

EDIT: What even is this thread?

What's a Star Trek?

 

[thribs]

Speaking of tie ins, Coda could do with some. Some novellas focusing on the characters we didn’t see here and how they handled the crisis. Make the story feel more grander.

 

[Enterprise1701]

What's a Star Trek?

 

[Christopher]

I always hated that "astronauts on some kind of star trek" line. Nobody would actually put those words together in that order. It's one of the most awkwardly forced title drops I've ever heard.

 

[Mike Farley]

What's a Star Trek?

i thought it was Star TRACK?

 

[JoeZhang]

Speaking of tie ins, Coda could do with some. Some novellas focusing on the characters we didn’t see here and how they handled the crisis. Make the story feel more grander.

I guess they handled it by dying?

 

[VESATI]

Does any one have a vague notion of having read a series of interconnected Star Trek books over the last decade? I could have sworn I had, but the books seem to have erased themselves from my shelf...

EDIT: What even is this thread?

Ah, see this is why I keep my personal library temporally shielded.

Some of us were paying attention during the DTI novels.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Speaking of tie ins, Coda could do with some. Some novellas focusing on the characters we didn’t see here and how they handled the crisis. Make the story feel more grander.

After reading Moments Asunder, I made a similar comment on Twitter. Looking at two other recent media projects -- The High Republic and Time Lord Victorious -- which were and are books, comics, short fiction, and more, I thought a Coda tie-in comic from IDW and short stories in the magazine would be really cool. Neither were probably feasible, and reading Dayton's afterword to the first book I was left with the sense that CBS wouldn't have been receptive to something "larger" than Coda is. But, maybe, in some other splinter of our universe, Keith DeCandido wrote a four-issue DS9 comic that tied into Coda.

I always hated that "astronauts on some kind of star trek" line. Nobody would actually put those words together in that order. It's one of the most awkwardly forced title drops I've ever heard.

That line always makes me think of this...

"George, you can type this shit, but you sure can’t say it." -- Harrison Ford

 

[Ronald Held]

Is the probability close to 0, that the Litverse ending with Coda 3 will not be seen in any future novel or referenced?

 

[JoeZhang]

Is the probability close to 0, that the Litverse ending with Coda 3 will not be seen in any future novel or referenced?

You can never say never but I would think so.

 

[Happenstance]

Just finished the book. Still mulling everything over and I’m not sure what I thought. For a grand finale for such an amazing universe it was a bit lacking but there were definitely parts that hit hard. Geordi and Data’s goodbyes broke me.

 

[Ronald Held]

Which of the three authors decided to "entangle" the Litverse PU with the Litverse MU?
I did not expect that "Coda"would be a part of the story.

 

[DimesDan]

I did not expect that "Coda"would be a part of the story.

I did expect it, a few months ago @David Mack was asked which novels would be best to get caught up before Coda and he said his MU novels would be included. I quiet like the MU post revolution and was glad they were included.

 

[ToddCam]

Still listening to the audio book and trying to avoid spoilers, but I am super confused. In Coda 3, Kira just met mirror Ezri Tigan, who is now host of Dax. Memory Beta says she got it from Curzon, but wasn't Jadzia the host of Dax in the mirror universe? The Memory Alpha article on mirror Jadzia calls her Dax. Is that just an oversight on MA's side?

 

[Christopher]

Still listening to the audio book and trying to avoid spoilers, but I am super confused. In Coda 3, Kira just met mirror Ezri Tigan, who is now host of Dax. Memory Beta says she got it from Curzon, but wasn't Jadzia the host of Dax in the mirror universe? The Memory Alpha article on mirror Jadzia calls her Dax. Is that just an oversight on MA's side?

Strictly speaking, Prime Sisko addressed her as Dax once, and nobody seemed confused by it, but that was the only indication. In the novelverse MU continuity, Jadzia was not joined to Dax, so implicitly Sisko just assumed she was joined and nobody bothered to correct him.

 

[ToddCam]

Strictly speaking, Prime Sisko addressed her as Dax once, and nobody seemed confused by it, but that was the only indication. In the novelverse MU continuity, Jadzia was not joined to Dax, so implicitly Sisko just assumed she was joined and nobody bothered to correct him.

Thanks. That's one thing I have always loved about the Litverse. Not being stuck with the idea that lines of dialogue should be defining of reality as if every statement is made with absolute candor and reliable knowledge to back it up.

 

[Solarbaby]

I enjoyed this trilogy. I haven't read a lot of the books. But I've really enjoyed the last 10 releases. When I read that this trilogy was wrapping up the Litverse I was worried that I'd read Coda and not want to continue reading older books. Despite the ending to Coda I do still want to go back because the books often surpass the TV episodes.


I think Oblivion's Gate was 8/10. Ashes of Tomorrow was 10/10. I couldn't wait to read the 3rd but it felt clunky with so much technobabble. And I usually love technobabble.


I enjoyed the description of the Devidian's opium den-esque feeding grounds. As close a description of hell as sci-fi gets.


I can't believe the Q continuum wasn't involved. It has the ability to stop the Devidians. If the timeline collapses what happens to Q? Would they all hop to another timeline? Is the continuum even in the timelne, or another inter time pocket universe?


I just can't imagine the Q allowing the Devidians to end so many timelines and lives. It made no sense not to give an explanation why they're absent.


Coda was an epic idea and a very clever use of the Devidians as the most evil selfish villains ever.

 

[RonG]

I can't believe the Q continuum wasn't involved. It has the ability to stop the Devidians. If the timeline collapses what happens to Q? Would they all hop to another timeline? Is the continuum even in the timelne, or another inter time pocket universe?

Perhaps the Q exist in all timelines simultaneously and moved on to the Prime Timeline (i.e. PIC S02)?
I would have loved for the Q to "save" all the Litverse characters at the very end (white flash and all..).. perhaps they did

 

[Newspaper Taxi]

Perfect time for Q to appear was when Picard was looking at the ocean of possibilities. Q could've reminded him of their conversation at the end of "All Good Things", where he alluded to the fact there were greater things to explore than the stars -- existence itself. And that could have prompted him to spend an eternal moment living all the possibilities.

Could have handwaved Q's inaction, too. "My intervention would have started a war amongst the higher beings that erased infinitely more lives than this tragedy." Or, simply, "My hands were tied, Jean-Luc."

But really, enough was going on that Q's sudden appearance would've been gratuitous unless properly foreshadowed/tied in.