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Spoilers Coda: Book 2: The Ashes of Tomorrow by James Swallow Review Thread

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Really enjoyed the book, more so than the first chapter. The only thing that didn’t hit right is everyone just going along with Riker acting bonkers, and where’s the rest of the admiralty and federation in all of this? There’s planets and stars getting blown apart even before the battle of bajor, the Klingons are down a chancellor… lots to be concerned about!

Mirror universe…. I’ll wait and see.
 
Really enjoyed the book, more so than the first chapter. The only thing that didn’t hit right is everyone just going along with Riker acting bonkers, and where’s the rest of the admiralty and federation in all of this? There’s planets and stars getting blown apart even before the battle of bajor, the Klingons are down a chancellor… lots to be concerned about!

Mirror universe…. I’ll wait and see.
I think the point is that they are concerned about Riker, they just don't have the time (get it?) to do anything about it.
On a side note, I just watched Apocalypse War and that felt very similar to this. I don't get why final stories in a series like killing everyone off. It does come off rather comical.
 
I read this in about a day and when I read a book that fast, it's because it's good! I loved that Bashir is back in action now (and that Garak was the one who got him out of the catatonic state) and there was a tribute to Ezri in there that brought a tear to my eye. I also liked seeing the DS9 crew again and I thought they were really well done here. For example, in some of the DS9 relaunch, I wasn't a fan of the direction Sisko's character went in where he deliberately decided to be emotionally distant to the Robinson crew. But this book does away with that right away, giving Sisko and Rogiero a strong rapport. Odo and Quark were classic. Martok and Klag get a glorious battle to go out on and they're happy when the odds are against them. Ro Laren and Quark get a nice tribute to Aliens in with their sacrifice scene. Overall, even though the situation is getting increasingly desperate, the tone of the book was hopeful and it ended with the characters having some idea of what to do next.

I was a little confused by the actions of the Nagas around the Bajoran system though. I remember the DRG novels establishing the idea of the "falsework" (IIRC) which was planet-sized infrastructure buried in Bajoran moons related to the wormhole. When the Nagas started trashing Bajoran moons I thought this was what they were going for, collapsing the wormhole themselves. But this doesn't seem to have been the case. I think it could be that while the Nagas have an overall goal, they're also kind of just hungry animals and they can get distracted if there is a tasty planet nearby. That would explain some of the randomness of their actions.
 
Okay, I was a day behind in starting book two because of reasons, but I just finished, and all I can say is....who the inconvenient fuck is cutting onions right now?

Nog...you brave, noble, responsible being...you were a bad Ferengi, and the best of us all.

Miles...GOD FUCKING DAMMIT.
As the one character I always felt most alike in my life, I felt a part of me die with you.

Martok...I would have followed with you, screaming a blood cry to terrify hell...and I'm a goddamn coward, so that's saying something.

Ro and Quark...we should all be so lucky to die honorably with the one we love.
I envy and mourn you both.

Riker...what the actual fuck, Admiral?
Pull your bearded head out of your ass and fucking lend a hand.
It's all hands on deck.

And lastly, to the Aventine...the first ship/ship-class since the Sovereign-class Enterprise to steal my heart...that'll do, pig.
That'll do.
 
45% in and loving it. The interactions between Riker and Picard have been simply brilliant!
 
Really enjoyed this book - and excited to see where book 3 takes us. Thank you to everyone involved!

One thing raised my curiosity...

Counselor Hegol DEFINITELY died in book 1? How come he's spending time with Rene and coming to Chateau Picard for dinner at the start of book 2? He's dead! Deceased!

I thought maybe I missed something so I went back and re-read the book 1 stuff and he's 100% dead - and they keep talking about how dead he is. So ? How come he's alive and kicking book 2?

Hmmmm....
 
One thing raised my curiosity...

Counselor Hegol DEFINITELY died in book 1? How come he's spending time with Rene and coming to Chateau Picard for dinner at the start of book 2? He's dead! Deceased!

I thought maybe I missed something so I went back and re-read the book 1 stuff and he's 100% dead - and they keep talking about how dead he is. So ? How come he's alive and kicking book 2?

Hmmmm....

How did I not notice that?
Also not the first character to show up in either book alive that were supposed to be dead. One of the DTI agents was killed in a pre-Coda book
 
The description of Julian as "feral" at the novel's end makes me wonder if this is "our" Julian. Yes, mirror Julian is supposed to be deceased, but I don't recall ever seeing the body...

Maybe mirror Julian has "bled" from his reality to into our reality's Julian, like what Worf and Riker are experiencing. Might explain too why he started speaking for the first time after months of being on Cardassia, and it wasn't just the news about Ezri.
 
I'm not going to say I didn't like the first novel, but this one is just so much more of what I was expecting and looking for. After a few chapters in, I started thinking of the series more as a final TNG novel followed by a Litverse finale duology. All the aspects of the Litverse which were touched on and brought into the story here were exactly what this finale deserves. Every time a new character came in, and it was possible that that would be the last time we'll ever see them, it was certainly pulling on the heart strings.

I know the original hope was to have a few lead in books before a final four book series. I'm sad that didn't turn out because the more time this story was given to breathe, and the more setting the stage for it before hand which we could have been given would have really made for an improvement. Deep Space Nine in particular got a bit shafted. Unless I'm misremembering, the last we left Sisko, he was on a three-year mission in the Gamma Quadrant, and now he's patrolling the Cardassian border. I suppose after the ordeal in Original Sin they just headed back home, but that would have been something worth at least mentioning. Likewise with Odo. There seems to be missing piece left untold since the last time we saw him.

I love that the mystical element of Sisko and the Prophets is back in the spotlight for this, but all the Bajoran religious stuff from the DRGIII era seem to have been completely pushed to the wayside with seemingly no conclusion. I was expecting Rebecca and Endalla to play some part in where the story ended up going, but both were completely ignored, along with Kira's boyfriend from the past. Endalla could have easily ended up being the mechanism by which they destroyed the wormhole, as it was previously hinted that it was what was used to create it. I'm still left with the unanswered question of what if anything took place behind the scenes with DRGIII. Was he completely left out of the Coda conversation for some reason, or was he mined for ideas on how he saw his storylines come to a conclusion (based on what happened in the book, it doesn't seem so), or did he simply not want to be involved? We may never know.

The Klag and Martok portion was very well done. Was KRAD involved with that in any way?

The death which got me the worst was Quark, as up to that moment his was the biggest character to have died in this trilogy, unless I'm forgetting someone. The whole "I want to grow old with you" thing was quite touching. And then just a few pages later O'Brien. What a one-two punch. Though again there seems to have been a missing chapter in Quark and Ro's relationship that we skipped over since The Long Mirage.

When the Andorian transporter duplicates storyline was "wrapped up" with one sentence, I thought of @F. King Daniel. We won't have to riot after all!

I kept the return from the dead of Ranjea in the back of my head, and then when Hegol was also still alive, and it was specifically stated that Spock and Saavik weren't married, I had the fear that these aren't actually "our" heroes we've been following. That perhaps we're skipping around between similar universes for some reason. But I couldn't imagine how that would provide a satisfying ending, by spending all this time with alternate versions of our heroes. But based on David Mack chiming in above, it appears at least one of these things, and therefore I guess all three of them, were accidents?

The epilogue was somewhat strange in that it didn't really reveal a single thing we didn't already know. I'm not sure what the point of having it at all was?

But for any criticisms I have, I'm glad to have had this novel really improve my enjoyment of this storyline. I suppose I'm almost convinced the Krenim aren't behind everything now, which is disappointing, but all the pieces are set up on the board for David Mack to blow me away with an amazing finale. I trust you, Mr. Mack, but it's a tall order. Good luck to you, sir!
 
Thank you, but I have no doubt that Oblivion’s Gate will disappoint or otherwise somehow aggrieve some of this board's regular participants while simultaneously pleasing others. So it goes.

And the Venus de Milo is missing its arms.
Art is still art.

Pleasing every hardcore fan was always going to be an exercise is alcoholism; Coda is still (thus far) one of the biggest achievements in the litverse, and so much more than a lot of literary universes get when continuity demands realignment with canon sources.
 
I just finished. Book 1 cannot hold a candle in carnage to this one.
I see I was incorrect about the Krenim.
I can could on Mr. Mack for an unforgettable finish.
 
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