Spoilers "Classical Music"

[USSPhilippi]

Kinda funny to learn that the Beastie Boys are considered "classical music" in the 23rd century, at least in the Kelvin Timeline.

Though my mom, who died in January, probably would have been offended. She enjoyed what *we* consider to be classical music, but she hated rap.

 

[Commander Richard]

Looked like the crew were tapping their feet to it too.

 

[Tosk]

Imma pretend the "classical music" gag is a reference to Futurama. Whether it is or not.

 

[AndyPandy]

The film's set in 2266 - so the music of today is to them, as what the music of 1766 is to us.

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[M'Sharak]

Imma pretend the "classical music" gag is a reference to Futurama. Whether it is or not.

I wouldn't rule it out.

It's also true that the meaning of "classical" has varied quite a bit over time. In one sense (capital-C "Classical") it's still used to refer specifically to music of a period which only lasted about 60 years; in another (small-c) it's much more broad - often applied to music dating anywhere from the late Renaissance to well into the 20th century. It's not completely unreasonable to assume that the general label might grow to have included even more by 2259.

 

[RAMA]

Just FYI, the Beasties started off as a punk band. Sabotage in particular isn't a straight rap song and it has more traditional rock sound to it.

A moderate commercial success, the song was notable as well for its video, directed by Spike Jonze and nominated in five categories at the 1994 MTV Music Video Awards.

In 2004, Rolling Stone magazine ranked "Sabotage" #480 on their list of the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time.[3] In March 2005, Q magazine placed it at #46 in its list of the 100 Greatest Guitar Tracks, and was ranked #19 on VH1's 100 Greatest Songs of the 90s list. Pitchfork Media included the song at #39 on their Top 200 Tracks of the 90s list.[4]

 

[SalvorHardin]

I loved that whole scene and McCoy's line. The rest of the theater sounded like they did too.

 

[{ Emilia }]

It's a funny line but I usually find that silly. I don't think our music will ever be called "classical" music because "classical" doesn't mean "old" or in general music that's stood the test of time. It's a term specifically used for the classical period mostly associated with Vienna. It's not just a specific type of music but also a specific time.
Classic was one specific period preceded by Baroque and followed by the Romantic period.
The "classical period" is just one of many periods.

Bach is not classical music for example. It's Baroque.

But then of course the colloquial use of the term is so vague and mostly nonsensical that it might just extend towards the Beastie Boys in a few hundred years. So what do I know, really.

 

[SalvorHardin]

I wonder if ooby dooby is also considered classical music

 

[Tosk]

It's a funny line but I usually find that silly. I don't think our music will ever be called "classical" music because "classical" doesn't mean "old" or in general music that's stood the test of time. It's a term specifically used for the classical period mostly associated with Vienna. It's not just a specific type of music but also a specific time.
Classic was one specific period preceded by Baroque and followed by the Romantic period.
The "classical period" is just one of many periods.

Bach is not classical music for example. It's Baroque.

But then of course the colloquial use of the term is so vague and mostly nonsensical that it might just extend towards the Beastie Boys in a few hundred years. So what do I know, really.

Who knows what the future will bring? Like Rhythm and Blues being knows as R&B. Until a new style took the name and made it all confusing.

 

[ralph]

I was thinking about Star Trek IV. It is a joke.
Kirk: You mean the profanity? That's simply the way they talk here. Nobody pays attention to you unless you swear every other word. You'll find it in all the literature of the period.
Spock: For example?
Kirk: Oh the collected works of Jacqueline Susann. The novels of Harold Robbins..
Spock: Ah, the "Giants".

 

[Unionized Elf]

Hell, this joke was kind of done in a TOS novel released a few years back featuring a 21st century astronaut transported on board the Enterprise. His inner monologue has him musing "these people probably consider Lady Gaga classical music."

 

[ricardocube]

I liked that reference to classical music. I thought it was well timed

 

[F. King Daniel]

Hell, this joke was kind of done in a TOS novel released a few years back featuring a 21st century astronaut transported on board the Enterprise. His inner monologue has him musing "these people probably consider Lady Gaga classical music."

Then he looks up a particular Rihanna song from 2016 and the multiverse explodes.

 

[jamestyler]

"And here, another rarity - according to the archives, this was called an iPod. It stores classical music from humanity's greatest composers - play on!"

I've read a few complaints saying this 'dates' the movie. I'm not sure these people know they're not recent songs

 

[BlueMetroid]

As a lifelong Beasties fan, the fact that they've appeared in my favorite franchise three times in a row is fantastic. I'm sure the Beasties themselves love it as well. They've mentioned Star Trek in their rhymes numerous times through the years and consider themselves big fans.

 

[M'Sharak]

When Spock refers to the 'Giants', is that a reference to a specific book, or a tongue-in-cheek conflation of popular and quality authors? Always wondered...

Not a specific book, I think. My take was always that the reference to schlock authors Jacqueline Susann and Harold Robbins as (literary) giants was Spock being drily sarcastic.

 

[STIntergalactic]

"Classical music" was the only groaner in a script with pretty well written jokes.

 

[Franklin]

I didn't really mind the choice, though to be fair, it was a bit forced. It had to be a million-to-one coincidence that the song Jaylah would choose is exactly the one Kirk played when he stole his uncle's car.

Two hundred years from now, who knows what connotations the word "classical" will take with music. We already have "classic rock,"mso maybe "classical" evolved as a shorthand reference to older music in a given genre that is still listened to in the present by a significant number of people.

 

[Amaris]

I laughed my ass off. That whole scene was golden.