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Spoilers Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey

How do you rate The Odyssey?


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Sometimes I find it a little funny that some folks don't blink an eye at stuff like RoboCop gunning down man after man, but then see one dog get hurt in a minor way and suddenly it's too far.
I don't have that reaction, at least to movies made with the care of the animal in mind, because I know it is not real. That said, I think John Wick was totally justified in avenging his dog.
 
I don't have that reaction, at least to movies made with the care of the animal in mind, because I know it is not real. That said, I think John Wick was totally justified in avenging his dog.
It was more what the dog represented; being the final gift from his dying wife that was violently taken away from him that sent him off.
 
I was/am aware of the how and why in the movie, and how it sets him of. I just really hate animal cruelty.
But everyone keeps saying the Wick movies are awesome, so I will give it a shot someday. I have to note, the last time I tried watching the first one, was just after a break up of a long term relationship and I was already highly emotional at the time. And I knew what was coming and turned it off. Maybe it's different now.
 
I haven't read through the 25+ pages, so has anyone mentioned the filming location issues around this movie? Because those sound kinda effed up.
 
I was/am aware of the how and why in the movie, and how it sets him of. I just really hate animal cruelty.
But everyone keeps saying the Wick movies are awesome, so I will give it a shot someday. I have to note, the last time I tried watching the first one, was just after a break up of a long term relationship and I was already highly emotional at the time. And I knew what was coming and turned it off. Maybe it's different now.
You could always skip that part.
 
I was/am aware of the how and why in the movie, and how it sets him of. I just really hate animal cruelty.
But everyone keeps saying the Wick movies are awesome, so I will give it a shot someday. I have to note, the last time I tried watching the first one, was just after a break up of a long term relationship and I was already highly emotional at the time. And I knew what was coming and turned it off. Maybe it's different now.

I'll be honest. The four movies are really just action movies with lots of gun-foo and crazy set pieces. There is a character arc and each movie leads naturally to the next in terms of the story, and the final sequence at the end of the fourth is pretty spectacular. They remind me a lot of Bruce Lee movies from the 70s only with contemporary budgets and effects. If you like the martial arts movies of that time, then John Wick is for you--if not, then your life isn't going to be better for watching them.
 
I haven't read through the 25+ pages, so has anyone mentioned the filming location issues around this movie? Because those sound kinda effed up.
According to AI:

Christopher Nolan filmed The Odyssey across six countries and multiple iconic sites, blending real-world landscapes with mythological storytelling.

Mediterranean Locations
Greece (Peloponnese Region)

  • Voidokilia Beach: Horseshoe-shaped cove used for pivotal shipwreck and divine-intervention scenes.
  • Nestor’s Cave: Cliffside cave above Voidokilia, featured in the Cyclops sequence with Polyphemus.
  • Methoni Castle: 13th-century Venetian fortress doubling as palace and harbor sequences.
  • Acrocorinth: Ancient fortress above Corinth, providing grand architectural backdrops.
  • Pylos Harbor & Palace of Nestor: Historical sites referenced for Mycenaean-era sequences
Italy (Sicily and Aeolian Islands)
  • Favignana (Egadi Islands): Key coastal scenes, shipwreck sequences, and clifftop shots at Castello di Santa Caterina.
  • Aeolian Islands (Lipari, Vulcano, Basiluzzo, Salina): Volcanic landscapes and black sand beaches representing mystical islands and Aeolus’ domain
Malta
  • Calypso’s Cave (Gozo): Filmed scenes of Odysseus’ captivity by the nymph Calypso.
  • Dwejra Bay & Azure Window Coastline: Dramatic limestone cliffs and open sea vistas for Mediterranean sequences
Morocco
  • Aït Benhaddou: UNESCO World Heritage site used as ancient Troy.
  • Essaouira, Marrakech, Tahanaoute, Dakhla: Coastal and desert locations for maritime and war-torn city sequences
Northern Locations
Scotland (Moray Coast)

  • Findlater Castle: Cliffside ruins representing Ithaca.
  • Buckie Harbour & Culbin Forest: Coastal and woodland sequences.
  • Sunnyside Beach & Bow Fiddle Rock: Rugged coastlines for dramatic seafaring visuals
Iceland
  • Hjörleifshöfði, Snæfellsnes Peninsula, Landeyjahöfn Harbour, Markarfljót River: Black sand beaches, glaciers, and volcanic terrain for underworld and mystical island sequences.
  • Skógafoss Waterfall: Iconic waterfall used for visually striking scenes
Studio Work
Los Angeles, USA

  • Universal Studios (Falls Lake) and Sony Pictures Studios: Controlled water sequences, ship reshoots, and interior sets
 
In youtube comments I've seen people protesting the filming in occupied Sahara? Also leaving behind polution/crap at some of the filming locations?
 
I just watched the 1988 Battle of Britain miniseries "Piece of Cake," and I knew there was scene were a pilot shot the late CO's dog. I decided to end that episode before that. I love the John Wayne movie "Big Jake," but it's been off my list lately because his faithful dog gets macheted to death at the end. I'm finding such things less easily ignored these days.
 
In youtube comments I've seen people protesting the filming in occupied Sahara? Also leaving behind polution/crap at some of the filming locations?

Ah..... YouTube comments. Truly the most trustworthy of all sources on the internet. The internet, which is know for being a trustworthy source.
There might be truth to it, and yes, the internet is a very helpful tool. IF and WHEN you know how to use it. But to assume that whatever is being said in YouTube comments is trustworthy is a dangerous path to take indeed.
 
The issue is that Nolan filmed in Western Sahara where it's occupied by Morroco. Emily Wilson briefly talked about it in her essay and you can read more about it here.
 
Thanks for posting this. I'm a lover of reading (or listening to) real, thoughtful criticism that gives me a fuller appreciation of the piece of art that I've experienced. Good criticism should make me feel as if I had been there, even if it doesn't give away the plot. There are many things we can't experience. Most of us cannot experience The Odyssey in true IMAX, for example, so reading descriptions of that experience is helpful. We can't see plays, ballet, concerts, art exhibits, restaurants, or other experiences that need to be experienced in person. The role of the critic is as much to provide us with this experience as it is to "critique" the film. And, as per the article, it is not a critics role to nitpick every detail of the film or to slap us over the head with their personal agenda. Whether a critic likes something has very little to do with me wanting to experience it myself, but a great review will help me determine if it is for me regardless.

EDIT: And just below that article is "Tom's Guide" which appears to be exactly the kind of thing the writer of the article you posted was criticizing.
 
Yahoo! said:
I'd also venture that the once-popular CinemaSins, which posted online videos picking apart popular movies, played a part in this mindset. To give CinemaSins the benefit of the doubt, I think many of their "criticisms" were meant to be tongue-in-cheek jokes, but that nuance was lost on many viewers who simply assumed this was how you went about criticizing movies: you break down a list of issues like some sort of math equation. But gosh, what a boring way to look at movies!

They don't like Lupita Nyong'o. They've really been coming out of the woodwork on Facebook:

Critic: Imagine a movie featuring Jeff Daniels as Barack Obama!
Me: Pretend it's Hamilton.
 
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They don't like Lupita Nyong'o. They've really been coming out of the woodwork on Facebook:

I think it was a recent Daily Show, or it might have been Jimmy Kimmel, where they made the point that White Supremacists Conservative Republicans love saying that they don't see colour until somebody of darker skin is cast in a movie role that they feel should be given to a white actor. For however bad the F4 movie was, I wonder what Michael B Jordan thinks of all this.
 
I think it was a recent Daily Show, or it might have been Jimmy Kimmel, where they made the point that White Supremacists Conservative Republicans love saying that they don't see colour until somebody of darker skin is cast in a movie role that they feel should be given to a white actor. For however bad the F4 movie was, I wonder what Michael B Jordan thinks of all this.

Hamilton went there quite a while ago.

No one can say there isn't precedent.
 
Excellent article, one that I agree with completely. This particular culture is why I've moved heavily away from social media after being so deep in it for two decades. I still use Bluesky but even there I've seen certain biases that drive discourses in all kinds of directions, even if not as badly as Twitter and Tik Tok.

It's a damn shame that some (many?) people allow this thought process to drive their enjoyment of films, shows, books, plays, and all other media.
 
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