This is my stance as well.
Chivalry: It's dead, Jim.
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This is my stance as well.
I've only very rarely been offered a seat, and I've always been grateful and accepted when the opportunity presented itself. Why on earth would I be offended?
Still, I have noticed it can be a self-serving act for men... as when seats are offered, it may well be the woman who is to benefit is especially well-endowed, or has fabulous legs, etc...
Where is the equal opportunity seat offering? I want to see that happening for a woman who may look a little shabby as well.
Still, I have noticed it can be a self-serving act for men... as when seats are offered, it may well be the woman who is to benefit is especially well-endowed, or has fabulous legs, etc...
Where is the equal opportunity seat offering? I want to see that happening for a woman who may look a little shabby as well.
Just a sidebar, I've noticed that when I have offered my seat to pregnant women they generally takes it less than nonpregnant women saying something along the lines of "it's not a disease."
And yet she's probably been bitching all day that her back hurts and her feet are sore. Hormones or not, pregnant women generally piss me off when they start complaining, as if it's everyone elses' fault they have to waddle everywhere and are carrying extra weight.
I'll give up a seat for an older person who looks run down, sure. For a woman? No. Why would I? It makes no sense to me at all. If they wore high heels or something that's their fault, don't expect me to feel sorry for you.
Well speaking of the specific people that this happens to the most with me, no. They definitely don't.
I see, I misread what you posted. You're saying the non-pregant women are the ones who act like you're implying that being a female is a disease, correct?
No, pregnancy.
Gotcha.
If heels are uncomfortable to stand in, might I suggest not wearing them?
Most girls actually still appreciate this kind of thing, even if you get the occasion "scoff" at opening the door for a girl-- and frankly I find the attitude presumptuous since I open the door for everybody. I may not jump up to give my seat to a girl my age on the train, but that's usually because the train is packed and the logistics of getting up and trying to offer your seat to a young woman focused on her ipod would be more confusing than chivalrous. Having said that, people should always give up their seats for the elderly/disabled.
Women want to be treated as equals and the same as everyone else.
Except when they've just spent the whole day shopping in heels and want a seat on a bus. Then we need to treat them as specials.
Except when they've just spent the whole day shopping in heels and want a seat on a bus. Then we need to treat them as specials.
I was actually just kidding about the heel heights. Truth be told, I've given up my seat for a woman in high heels (Blue Line in D.C., holla). Who knows? Maybe she had a big job interview or presentation that day. Maybe she forgot her commuting sneakers in the office. Sometimes it's nice to do something nice.
Hey, no women ever give up their seats for me when I have my heels on so why should I get up for them?
To be nice 
Wow, I'm pretty surprised by some of the cynical, self-centered comments going on here. I think a lot of you are missing the point of giving up a seat for a woman. I don't do it because I think they're weak or deserve comfort more than I do. I do it because it's called being a gentleman, and is the nice and polite thing to do. It's the same reason I wait for my girlfriend to sit down to dinner before I do, or open a door for her. I don't do it for personal gain or to imply anything about the person on the receiving end. I do it because sometimes it's nice to do something nice. Again, I guess I'm just traditional.
My way of thinking is this: pretend people on the train/bus are members of your family. Would you let your mom or sister stand while you sit? I think if we all treated each other like family we'd all get along a hell of a lot better.
Part of me wonders if this attitude some of you have translates into dating life. Do you not do special things for your date, since she's *just* a woman, and is perfectly able bodied?
My way of thinking is this: pretend people on the train/bus are members of your family. Would you let your mom or sister stand while you sit? I think if we all treated each other like family we'd all get along a hell of a lot better.
Part of me wonders if this attitude some of you have translates into dating life. Do you not do special things for your date, since she's *just* a woman, and is perfectly able bodied?
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First come first served. Unless it's an obviously distressed, pregnant or elderly Human. But just for a Female? Forget it.
I've never had a girl scoff at me for holding a door open for her. But then again I hold doors open for guys too, so maybe they see it's an equal gender thing.
As for the train/bus thing, I'll give up my seat for the elderly, disabled, or someone who is carrying a lot of things, but never for a girl. She has legs the same as me. She can stand just as well as I can.
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