Characters doing things they just wouldn't ever do

[Michael]

I just stumbled upon an unexpected character inconsistency in S1.

Well, technically that inconsistency isn't in season one, though.

But I know what you mean. They pretty much made him a different character later on and tried to mask it as character development. Personally it didn't bother me too much, though.

Rom was a completely different character from season one to season 4 or 5. He even talked different.

... and tried to kill Quark!

 

[Navaros]

They pretty much made him a different character later on and tried to mask it as character development. Personally it didn't bother me too much, though.

Rom is another big one I forgot in my previous post. That quote is spot-on.

It's definitely insane that he tried to murder Quark yet then he is later portrayed as a good, loving person.

What bothers me about it most is the writers' dishonesty about these things in some interviews the gave about Rom.

 

[Zeppster]

They pretty much made him a different character later on and tried to mask it as character development. Personally it didn't bother me too much, though.

Rom is another big one I forgot in my previous post. That quote is spot-on.

It's definitely insane that he tried to murder Quark yet then he is later portrayed as a good, loving person.

What bothers me about it most is the writers' dishonesty about these things in some interviews the gave about Rom.

It's not the only thing the writers messed up on. A Changeling did major brain surgery on Sisko, and Bashir being genetically engineered after showing no signs of it for the first 5 seasons. After that point he just showed it off like it didn't matter. And a few others I'm sure.

 

[Nightdiamond]

Nog really changes after season 3. He goes from being a bad influence on Jake, to being a model, straight laced Starfleet officer.

Then he get a form of P.T.D after losing his leg (it was completely replaced), and takes it out on everyone before he returns to being a model officer again.

I definetly understand why he would have problems, but the other officers have also been to war and handeld it reasonably well, (well, maybe except for that Vulcan of all species).

Aren't people in that time thankful doctors and science can regernerate or replace entire legs and organs so they won't have to walk with a limp for the rest of their lives?

And they talk about 21st century humans, sheesh..

 

[Zeppster]

Nog really changes after season 3. He goes from being a bad influence on Jake, to being a model, straight laced Starfleet officer.

Then he get a form of P.T.D after losing his leg (it was completely replaced), and takes it out on everyone before he returns to being a model officer again.

I definetly understand why he would have problems, but the other officers have also been to war and handeld it reasonably well, (well, maybe except for that Vulcan of all species).

Aren't people in that time thankful doctors and science can regernerate or replace entire legs and organs so they won't have to walk with a limp for the rest of their lives?

And they talk about 21st century humans, sheesh..

Nog's change was more gradual. You saw early signs in season one when Jake was just hanging out with him to teach him to read. Then he went to school and the change was gradual. The episode that talked about the leg said it should have worked fine, but it was mental.

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

Nog really changes after season 3. He goes from being a bad influence on Jake, to being a model, straight laced Starfleet officer.

Then he get a form of P.T.D after losing his leg (it was completely replaced), and takes it out on everyone before he returns to being a model officer again.

I definetly understand why he would have problems, but the other officers have also been to war and handeld it reasonably well, (well, maybe except for that Vulcan of all species).

Aren't people in that time thankful doctors and science can regernerate or replace entire legs and organs so they won't have to walk with a limp for the rest of their lives?

And they talk about 21st century humans, sheesh..

Um...hate to break it to you, but Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder doesn't work like that.

For starters, it does NOT mean that a person has a weak or ungrateful character because they have it. It simply means they have gone through a severe trauma. And secondly, just because the physical wounds can be healed or compensated for does not mean that the emotional scars are erased.

 

[arasam22]

- Worf murdering an unarmed Weyoun 7.
- Odo banging the Female Founder.

YES.

i don't know why, but that made me really angry when i saw that. it kind of... cheapened(?) odo for me...

odo used to be my favorite character, but now i'm kinda mad at him :P (this could be because i just watched that ep for the first time yesterday... something tells me i'll get over it)

 

[Vykan12]

If you're offended by Odo having sex with a female founder, then you must be really outraged when they link. What greater intimacy is possible than physically combining 2 bodies into 1, then sharing one's thoughts, feelings, and sensations in such a way that humanoids could not comprehend? Odo also links with a male founder, which doesn't upset Kira in the least. I guess sex is more easily humanly relatable, and so we can see that as a breach of trust easier than something far beyond sex.

 

[PTRACER]

Rom's "development" greatly frustrated me. I can only mirror what others have said...he was dumb and useless for pretty much four series then suddenly he was a genius.

There was a period in Season 5 or 6 (?) where episode after episode after episode, Rom would suddenly say something incredibly clever and technical, or do something in engineering that only a professional could do. Then he went back to being a minor character again and didn't have much of a role for a while. His so called "genius" was just being forced on the viewers and I thought that it was a poor decision by the writers...

They should have shown Rom as someone with the potential of being a good engineer and be a good learner/listener, not shown him as someone who spent their entire life acting dumb and was actually a genius and never realised it.

 

[Pegaritaville]

I don't have a problem with Rom's develpoment. Even early on (like in "Necessary Evil") he showed some hints that he wasn't quite the idiot he pretended to be. I always figured he played the fool as a means of survival. He knew he couldn't compete with Quark or other Ferengi by conventional means, so he acted like a putz to disarm them. Only when Starfleet's presence gave him other options did he felt safe enough to drop the idiot persona and reveal his engineering prowess. But even then, he didn't totally change. Throughout the series, he kind of came off more as an idiot savant than a well-rounded genius.

- Bashir lusting after Serena. He's supposed to be a battle-weary doctor by this point, not a dopey young man who lusts after his patients.

One of several reasons why "Chrysalis" is one of my bottom five episodes. Bashir lusting after Serena like a love sick puppy was bad enough, but that fact that she was his patient made it worse. Even when he was a little more naive I don't think he would have compromised his ethics like that.

 

[PTRACER]

Just watched Penumbra closely for the first time.

Didn't Sisko let Ezri go off on her own a little too easily? The Defiant had to come back to the station due to increased Dominion activity around the Badlands, yet they let Ezri go off in a runabout, completely on her own to go looking for Worf.

 

[Navaros]

^
I believe there is a line in there about the Sisko let her go even though he shouldn't because she'd never forgive him otherwise.

Of course, if you are watching DS9 on TV, then they butcher it to pieces, so you never know what all you are missing unless you've previously seen every episode uncut elsewhere.

 

[JoeD80]

if you are watching DS9 on TV, then they butcher it to pieces, so you never know what all you are missing unless you've previously seen every episode uncut elsewhere.

On what channel? Since DS9 was originally syndicated, there shouldn't be any need for the stations to adjust timing for commercials. I wasn't aware of any cut versions airing.

 

[Navaros]

On what channel? Since DS9 was originally syndicated, there shouldn't be any need for the stations to adjust timing for commercials. I wasn't aware of any cut versions airing.

Spike's been butchering the heck out of it for several years.

I believe another poster posted something about relatively new government regulations where they are legally forced to have a certain amount of commercials in addition. Apparently this regulation applies to all US TV stations. In other words, presuming that info is accurate, it seems any and every US TV station you are watching DS9 on will only be airing a butchered version which excludes minutes of content from each episode (at least).