Discussion in 'Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' started by JoaquinSlowly, Apr 1, 2022.
More likely than not.
Mosts dates aren't firm facts, they are assumptions. When Mike & Denise Okuda created the Chronology they made a huge number of assumptions and also had to disregard a bunch of general mentions of times to try and fit all the various events into the few hard dates given. And they picked 2265 to 2369 as the period of the 5 year mission (but not based on any specific date ever given in the show. It wasn't until Q2 that we get an onscreen dialogue date for the year the 5 year mission ended as 2270. That then can be a jumping off date for other events but even that gives leeway. Those dates for Pike are not in any way shape or form direct from episode or film dates. Its supposition based on how long Spock served with Pike. But we have no basis for if that time was only on the Enterprise, if there were breaks where Spock was assigned another service, ect, ect. And its assumed Pike had to 5 year missions but that is also complete assumption. It wasn't until Discovery 2nd season that we have an onscreen dialogue reference stating Pike even had 1 5 year mission. that was happening (and we assume ended right during the 1st season of Discovery, but being on a 5 year mission and coming back right at the end of the war, doesn't technically mean you completed that same 5 year mission. He does use the term "Had". But technically he could have been on the 5 year mission had to return for supplies of some sort, the red angel event occurs, and Star Fleet sends him orders to take over the Discovery (as a tech issue had hit the Enterprise). Thus meaning if his 5 year mission could have been interrupted, thus "had" could mean the full five year mission was over, or that it was interrupted. We technically don't know.
You really can't assume dates that are given on various Trek sites are accurate. Again many assumption from the Chronology and others have ambiguity due to language use. But many fans just take dates as absolute. Without really considering them. For example Memory Alpha gives kirk's mission ending in early 2270 based on Q2 reference to 2270. But there is literally nothing stating what part of the year it ended on. None.
Just noticed this thread has the most views and replies of the trailer threads. A thread dedicated to Christine Chapel, to many the least interesting TOS "regular". We live in interesting times.
Canon discussions will do that.
Yep, she's canon fodder for sure.
It's surprising how she dies in the first episode.
It's okay, her consciousness survives in Una's mind. TOS is SAVED!!!!!
That is why T'pring is so mad at Spock. His logic in requesting that ceremony was quite odd where his friend was concerned. She never forgave and never forgot.
Why is she so sassy now?
She's better written and acted.
Why not? Are personalities static?
I doubt they’re better written.
It's a very low bar for Chapel
That’s true. I would rather they just made a new character.
Trust me, the thirty seconds of SNW Chapel are better.
She sure is.
It the writing and acting is there what does it matter?
You guys better cool it.
I don't know where startrek.com got 2262 as Pike's stepping down, but it was never mentioned in any canon source.
This is the same website that has the urban myth that Spock was the first Vulcan in Starfleet. Which was also never mentioned in any canon source, or even any Behind the Scene source.
Chapel had her moments. Very few of them, but she had them:
I'll also note that the person who put together this video of "the cumulative 4 minutes they let Christine Chapel have a personality" specifically calls out in their description that "she has so much sass" so it's not like that's coming out of nowhere.
Shame about the nintendo eshop music(?) they put over the clips, though.
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