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That's not how evidence works, Jason. If it did, I could insist that the sun shines because Satan powers it to bring warmth and light to the earth, and you would have to accept that as factual.
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Parson Jacob Crowly of the First Church of the Nazarene in Rockford could tell you more about it than I could since he's the one I heard it from.
As for the shopping trolleys in a local canal, it sounds like a lot of clumsy shoppers.
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You could be at the nexus of all miracles in the universe!
You'd think it would smell better...
Yet chariots in the Red Sea must be indicative of a miracle?
Miracles aren't free!
I knew someone was looking around for evidence of this but the last I heard he had run out funds...or something. I need a link.
And then I'll have to bow out of this thread. It's been fun but there are too many triggers from a childhood spent in what was basically an end time apocalyptic cult. Every time something happened in the news it was a sign of the end times which is a burden a child should not have to carry.
Hmmm well to be honest that doesn't exactly sound like a credible source for the information. The story sounds pretty much the same as the one that Ron Wyatt peddled back in the late 70's, claiming to have found chariot wheels. However his only proof were incredibly low resolution images, and they actually turned out to be coral reef structures. From what I understand, there isn't even proof that he raised one of these structures out of the water to verify it, and none of his "findings" were ever backed up by so much as a peer review. So to say that there is archaeological proof would be incorrect.
There are things called SHIPS, and people put horses and chariots on them and move them over water (hence the work SHIPPING,) and all finding chariots on the bottom of the Red Sea "proves" is that a ship sank.
By the terribly flawed logic you are using here, finding Manhattan proves the existence of Holy Spider-Man, and finding Tokyo proves that the movies about Blessed Godzilla are documentaries.
I forgot to answer the question about Caine's wife. The Bible doesn't record every little birth, so she was probably his sister. That's what they had to do back then because that's all they had.
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God bless, Jason Irelan
It would be a typical Fundie move to use 'something I heard from some random pastor/con artist' as interchangeable with 'proof.'
If that's the case, then how about seeing if there were any ships in the Red Sea as well.
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And Able, too. Must have been his sister. But wait, God blessed Able. God loves incest.
Further proof: God blessed Lot, and Lot boffed his daughters.
Even more: Noah's great grandchildren HAD to have come from cousin incest.
Are you being deliberately obtuse? There've been ships in the Red Sea as long as civilization nearby has existed, even before the Egyptians were a going concern.
"Um, we just killed a few dozen soldiers. You'll chase us to the ends of the Earth for that right? Because of like y'know, justice and retribution, right? Okay. It wasn't us. God did it. God did it, and we were just watching. Please leave us alone, and stop following us."
Ehh, it's far from being just a Fundamentalist thing, so I tend not to assume. There's been so much pseudohistorical bullshit both past, and present that I don't really blame anyone but the snake oil salesmen themselves. It's easy for someone who only has a cursory knowledge in such things to pick up a book like Gavin Menzies 1421, or anything Scott Wolter has ever done, and assume it's true. I don't really get on the "omg ignorant fools" bandwagon since it's hard for someone to have knowledge in every area, and these kinds of people always do their best to present themselves as credible. If they're the kind of die-hard supporter who's just going to ignore everything, nothing you say is going to change their mind anyway. So you might as well just be nice about it, and if they're more interested in screaming about the evils of peer review, politely decline to engage with them.
The Chariot post is pretty much religion in a nutshell. Grandiose claims with nothing to back them up. Much like Alien visitation, give me actual, tangible, physical proof of something divine. Not something that can be rejected by a third-grader using a bit of logic.
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