Chakotay and 7 of 9, why?

[Mr. Scott]

Greetings!

What I thought was kind of silly and forced in the end was the realtionship of Chakotay and 7 of 9, which seemed to happen at the last episode of the series. I wonder why the writers did this?

Wouldn't have made more since for Janeway and Chakotay to hook up in the end?

The 7 of 9 character to me was not that sexy. I know that especially here, I am a minority, but I never thought she (the character) was all that. Jeri Ryan the actress is attractive, but I just don't like her personality. I have always had a hardon for Janeway. M-I-L-F in spades.

Did anyone else thought that the Chakotay/ 7 of 9 relationship was silly or contrived?

 

[kes7]

I think your opinion is pretty much unanimously shared by everyone who ever watched the show.

 

[Tomalak]

I think so. It was probably the lowest point in Voyager for me.

 

[Deckerd]

I thought they were a cute couple.

 

[Saul]

It was terrible. But in Star Trek it always seems that the most unlikely pairings are made.

 

[JustKate]

I was going to say before Deckerd demonstrated this for me that C/7 has its fans. I'm not one of them, but they are out there, and some of them post here on the BBS.

 

[Mareika]

I thought they were a cute couple.

Although I most like Janeway/Chakotay together I have to agree- Seven and Chakotay are a cute couple (I also like this couple)

 

[Voyagerian]

Gotta go with J/C, hands down. As for who Seven could be involved with, Tom was out, Harry was a bit too young, eh, dunno about that one...the Doc certainly would have jumped at the chance to be her significant other...he did get the girl -very much flesh and blood-in the once-future timeline...but of course they played the Seven angle unrequited...and he was a mentor to Seven in her eyes, not a prospective romance.So that leaves Kotay to showcase her evolution back to humanity.

 

[StardustSteph]

Ugh I hated their relationship. In fact, I hated everything about the last episode, but that's a whole other story! It made no sense to me, especially since at that point in my opinion Chakotay's character was nothing more than some random dude in the background. It was annoying. I found Tom and B'elanna annyoing too, maybe because I don't really care for romantic storylines between crew members in Star Trek. I like romance, just not really in Star Trek.

 

[teya]

I think your opinion is pretty much unanimously shared by everyone who ever watched the show.

Actually, not unanimously.

 

[exodus]

The 7 of 9 character to me was not that sexy. I know that especially here, I am a minority, but I never thought she (the character) was all that. Jeri Ryan the actress is attractive, but I just don't like her personality. I have always had a hardon for Janeway. M-I-L-F in spades.

What does this have anything to do with Chakotay or Seven hooking up?

Anywhoo....

Janeway repeatly called Chakotay "just a friend". Also take note, the Michael hologram in "Fair Haven" Janeway made to be more compatible with her. Chakotay had none qualities Janeway was looking for in a man. Compared to Michael, Chakotay was a brute.
When Chakotay had every chance tell Janeway he had feelings for her in "Workforce" but he said: "There's some lines we never cross."

So, it seems like neither one of them were romatically interested in each other.

 

[teya]

Greetings!
Jeri Ryan the actress is attractive, but I just don't like her personality.

What is it about Jeri's personality you don't like?

 

[kimc]

In my opinion C7 was contrived as well as creepy.

 

[Pemmer Harge]

It's just a small part of a weak finale, and not even the worst part. That said, it doesn't really work for me. Not to say that it couldn't possibly have worked, but it needed more time to develop (like Worf/Troi, which I like). If their relationship had developed over several episodes, then maybe, just maybe, it might have been OK, although for me it's still hamstrung by the fact that I think she's vastly more interesting than he is.

 

[exodus]

It's just a small part of a weak finale, and not even the worst part. That said, it doesn't really work for me. Not to say that it couldn't possibly have worked, but it needed more time to develop (like Worf/Troi, which I like). If their relationship had developed over several episodes, then maybe, just maybe, it might have been OK, although for me it's still hamstrung by the fact that I think she's vastly more interesting than he is.

Seriously, you really believe little Miss Pris Troi who cried at everything could actually handle someone like Worf emotionally, not to mention sexually?

Worf is super aggressive & lives for fighting, Troi cried at just the "idea" of sending holographic Geordi to his death.

 

[kes7]

I think your opinion is pretty much unanimously shared by everyone who ever watched the show.

Actually, not unanimously.

Clearly, I stand corrected. But I don't think there's much disagreement over the fact that it felt tacked on.

I think they could have had an awesome romance had it started much earlier. They actually had some twisted chemistry in "Scorpion," when she was still a drone, I thought. But the writers ignored the possiblity until the very, very end, and then we were expected to accept that it was a grand love affair.

 

[Lynx]

I can only see two reasons for that relationship:

1 They wanted to come up with something shocking and unexpected, not caring about the fact that many fans would be upset and angry over it.

2. They simply wanted to annoy the J/C-ers, a large fan group who had been expecting and hoping for a Janeway-Chakotay romance for years, ever since the first episodes of the show, sort of "you are not in charge here, WE are!"

As for the Worf/Troi relationship, I never liked that. No chemistry at all between the characters and it always annoyed me when they tried to turn Worf into some "velour character" (which happened in many of the episodes where his son was involved) so I'm happy that they scrapped that idea. But they did at least come up with something which lead up to the affection between the characters and they also had the grace to end it which was not the fact in the C/7 thing, there it was just "Wham-bam-they-have-a-relation-here-and-now, accept it!"

 

[exodus]

I think your opinion is pretty much unanimously shared by everyone who ever watched the show.

Actually, not unanimously.

Clearly, I stand corrected. But I don't think there's much disagreement over the fact that it felt tacked on.

I think they could have had an awesome romance had it started much earlier. They actually had some twisted chemistry in "Scorpion," when she was still a drone, I thought. But the writers ignored the possiblity until the very, very end, and then we were expected to accept that it was a grand love affair.

No, I don't think so.

By the time they reached Earth in Admiral Janeway's time(several years later) it had become a grand love affair. In the time we saw, they were just simply dating.

With all the flirting between Picard & Dr. Crusher and from the results of "Nemesis", they will never be a couple either.

Sometimes giving in to fans needs such as a romance can kill a show too. "Moonlighting", "Silk Stalkings" & "The X-Files" are prime examples. Sexual tension is what kept the audience engaged.

 

[Pemmer Harge]

Worf is super aggressive & lives for fighting

He clearly doesn't, or he'd have gone off to be a proper Klingon warrior instead of joining Starfleet. Worf and Troi worked for me on the screen, but with Chakotay and Seven, there wasn't time for it to work.

 

[Lynx]

Sometimes giving in to fans needs such as a romance can kill a show too. "Moonlighting", "Silk Stalkings" & "The X-Files" are prime examples. Sexual tension is what kept the audience engaged.

I can agree on that. I've seen some examples of that which haven't worked.

But would it have been wrong to come up with a Janeway-Chakotay romance in the last episode, I mean the series was going to end. It would have been no harm to come up with such a pairing in the last episode. It would have delighted a large group of fans.

Instead they did choose a solution which annoyed and insulted that fan group.

If they didn't want a J/C-romance, they could at least have had the dignity to leave it hanging in the air to the fans own imagination instead of shattering all their hopes and wishes.