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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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Is this the right place for a Cash Markman joke?
Did someone say "Cash"?

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If he does beleive that he could win then he's either delusional or a massive idiot.

Sorry to make this comparison, but I see a lot of Saddam Hussein in Peters in the sense that Saddam kept poking the lion never thinking it would actually lash out at him, then learned otherwise. That's my assessment of Peters, and you can almost understand his perspective considering that the crowdfunding scene had become a free-for-all. You give an inch and some people will want to take a mile.

Really, it's hard to remember the discussions that used to take place before the hammer fell. Yes, there was a little bewilderment over the crowdfunding grosses but those (such as myself) who suggested that CBS/P would smack things down were largely shouted out of the room for fear that it would jinx the fan-film scene. By and large people felt that CBS/P had issued a silence=consent approval. And really, it was only at the tail end did we start to see the most tacky merch show up like Axanar coffee. Peters never would have raised the grosses he did unless there were enough people that felt the project would go through unimpeded. This is also why STC crowdfunding tanked after the lawsuit hit as people didn't want to throw their money away.

Other than that there was an undercurrent of "gee, Peters is a jerk" (in getting banned by the forum or his dealings in the auction-space) or artistic debates over the Queen Bitch Whore line, but that was it. The majority of Trek fans were lulled into a sense of complacency. Peters wasn't as much of an outlier as people think for feeling immune.

Now yes, when he had that sit-down meeting with CBS he should have interpreted that as a warning-shot, but by that point they were still pretty far along.

I'm not running defense for Peters but there's just a sort of revisionist history where in hindsight this lawsuit looked inevitable when most people were not predicting it.
 
"All we want to do is give the fans what they want, a great Star Trek story, true to the original and made for no other reason than our love of the franchise.".

Except that's not what the wrote in any version of the script. This isn't a deep Trek humanistic tale. It's not even a DS9 epic, pitting the values of the Federation against the horrors of war. It's fan-wank. The produced film would have appealed to the set of fans that love fan-wank. Beyond that, the True Trek claims, are either marketing or self delusion.
 
It's fan-wank. The produced film would have appealed to the set of fans that love fan-wank. Beyond that, the True Trek claims, are either marketing or self delusion.

And specialized to the sub-genre of feel-it beehive swarms attacking each other so closely they may collide, and do-it verbal command systems in an era of nanocomputing. War-board-gamer.
 
This isn't a deep Trek humanistic tale. It's not even a DS9 epic, pitting the values of the Federation against the horrors of war. It's fan-wank. The produced film would have appealed to the set of fans that love fan-wank. Beyond that, the True Trek claims, are either marketing or self delusion.

So...still better than the first season of TNG?
 
@jespah Care to weigh in on this thread over on IMDB: "Axanar (2016) : Paramount/CBS claim Klingon is copyrightable!"

by Sgt_G Sat May 28 2016 00:26:23
At this point in time, the question is moot. The judge tossed the filings on that item, saying it's not time yet to determine whether or not it is copyrightable, but he did leave the door open to answer that question at a later date.
by oscar-35 Tue Sep 13 2016 10:39:58
Oh, really. the case is quashed. quite a statement...got a citation or LINK for this ?
its for you to prove. I don't believe you on this comment.
by Sgt_G Mon Sep 19 2016 23:41:07
I don't have direct links to the court records, but here's the link to a site that has been following and reporting on the legal aspects of the case.

http://www.gandtshow.com/judge-klausner-rules-second-defense-motion-dismiss-lcs-amicus-brief/

The case against Axanar was not quashed. The Amicus Curiae brief filed by the Language Creation Society was deemed immaterial at the time and was therefore denied without prejudice.

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On April 27, 2016, Language Creation Society (“Amicus”) submitted an Application for Leave to File Brief as Amicus Curiae. Amicus argues in support of Defendants’ Motion to Dismiss that the Klingon language should not be entitled to copyright protection. In analyzing and ruling on Defendants’ Motion to Dismiss, the Court does not reach the issue of whether languages, and specifically the Klingon language, are copyrightable. Therefore, none of the information provided by Amicus is necessary to dispose of the Motion to Dismiss.

Accordingly, the Court DENIES Language Creation Society’s Application without prejudice.
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What this means is the Language Creation Society may refile another Amicus brief if this issue becomes a point of contention during the proceedings down the road.
by oscar-35 Tue Sep 20 2016 12:38:28
Your stated link doesn't support your original posted contention. So fail there. I am suspicious of the link you supplied also. It looks like a non-news worthy internet source and highly biased.
 
@jespah Care to weigh in on this thread over on IMDB: "Axanar (2016) : Paramount/CBS claim Klingon is copyrightable!"

Actual record I found at the Copyright Office:

Type of Work: Text
Registration Number / Date: TXu000709693 / 1995-10-23
Title: Klingon sex manual.
Description: 1 v.
Copyright Claimant: Sophie Laporte, 1966-, Jerry Rector, 1958- & Mary Contri, 1964-
Date of Creation: 1995
 
Thanks! Here's my reply:

And just how does it not support my first post??

As to the link for "real" documentation, I was provided with two.

http://www.plainsite.org/dockets/download.html?id=235574996&z=0268148a

That was copy/paste verbatim to the G&T Show page. And if that's still not proof, you can pay to see the legal filing here:

https://ecf.cacd.uscourts.gov/doc1/031123469751

All of these say the same thing I said in the first post: the judge threw the LCS brief out as immaterial to the question of Defendant's Motion To Dismiss the law suit. He did leave the window open that they could, in theory, re-file if the question of copyrighting a language comes up when the case goes to trial.

That's what I said in my first post, is it not? If you read that differently, please explain what you thought I said. Because I thought it was pretty clear in the meaning, so if it could somehow say something I didn't mean, do tell me so I may become a better communicator.
 
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