CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

[SeerSGB]

From that blog: "That wasn’t Star Trek! Star Trek brings fans together. This lawsuit was tearing fandom apart!"
Oh, the Hubris. Oh, Alec it's not the lawsuit that tears fandom apart, it's you thinking that the future of fandom is in your holy hands. (while I really don't care if Axanar ever gets made, all I've read about Alec makes me detest him)

I had 0 ideal who Alec Peters was before this; went into it not even giving a shit about him. Now, based on his online persona and his interviews, I think he's---at best---a used car salesman at worse a two-bit hustler. Shithead is the politest thing I can think to call him.

 

[SeerSGB]

Distinctly remember this tactic being used by thugs in junior high school. After everything is forced to be how they want it and all the critics are threatened into silence the thugs make nice in front of the uninformed external watchers, saying "why don't well all just get past this, can't we all just get along?".

So much about how an organization behaves stems from the mentality of its leaders.

Calling it a "cult of personality" isn't to far from the truth.

 

[muCephi]

My apologies for pushing my prediction so hard that AP would exercise common sense. I was so wrong about this...

You needed your taste of ground-truth to appreciate the situation. NP. Its why I referred new thread readers to the August 2015 Axanar podcast. If you want punishment, go listen.

 

[muCephi]

I tend to think that they still have to prep like they are going to trial without a settlement in hand. It doesn't look good, but I can see the logic.

Agree, they have to throw all the bucket at the wall to see if it has an effect, its SOP fighting a case I guess.

Making statements like these in the filing has to seem so utterly disingenuous to all professionals, watching fans, and probably a lot of Axanar supporters, that the net effect will probably be to becalm Axanar as all winds of support, appalled, fade away.

I am intensely curious what Abrams/Lin will say when next interviewed about Axanar. Perhaps they are temporarily at Farpoint.

 

[CaptGrumpy]

I had 0 ideal who Alec Peters was before this; went into it not even giving a shit about him. Now, based on his online persona and his interviews, I think he's---at best---a used car salesman at worse a two-bit hustler. Shithead is the politest thing I can think to call him.

Stop slandering used car salesmen!

 

[Red Shirt]

From that blog: "That wasn’t Star Trek! Star Trek brings fans together. This lawsuit was tearing fandom apart!"
Oh, the Hubris. Oh, Alec it's not the lawsuit that tears fandom apart, it's you thinking that the future of fandom is in your holy hands. (while I really don't care if Axanar ever gets made, all I've read about Alec makes me detest him)

IMO, what Alec is doing is projecting the blame. Bullies and punks exhibit that type of behavior blaming the victim while trying to sound altruistically in the right for the damage they've done. Alec has been using that transparent ploy since the beginning of the lawsuits.

 

[urbandefault]

Distinctly remember this tactic being used by thugs in junior high school. After everything is forced to be how they want it and all the critics are threatened into silence the thugs make nice in front of the uninformed external watchers, saying "why don't we all just get past this, can't we all just get along?".

So much about how an organization behaves stems from the mentality of its leaders.

That sounds exactly like my sister's ex.

 

[jespah]

fustercluck (c)2016 Jespah
We don't want an infringement suit here, do we?

I hereby release fustercluck into the public domain.

Yours, etc.,
/s/
jespah
Janet Gershen-Siegel, Esq.

 

[Steve Roby]

ETA: this keeps moving too damn fast.

You mean fustercluck? (c) Jespah 2016

Can't copyright words, but you can trademark them, though it's already in common use. For instance, yours truly on February 14:

Is TrekBBS the last of the great scifi message boards?

This and Gallifrey Base. I've been spending more time there over the last few years, but the 50th anniversary, Star Trek Beyond, the new series, the continuing book sagas, and the wonderful fustercluck that is Axanar have been bringing me back here again.

 

[CaptGrumpy]

I hereby release fustercluck into the public domain.

Yours, etc.,
/s/
jespah
Janet Gershen-Siegel, Esq.

And a cheer went out throughout the land, along with pie!

 

[muCephi]

I hereby release fustercluck into the public domain.

Yours, etc.,
/s/
jespah
Janet Gershen-Siegel, Esq.

 

[Sgt_G]

If Erin Ranahan wants to make case-law with Axanar, she wouldn't want it to be settled out of court. What better way to ensure it goes to trial than to p*** off the plaintiff.

 

[muCephi]

'We submit that, with concession to CBS mouths saying 'no no', their were communicating 'yes yes' through micro facial expressions that originated in the ocular area.' (3)

3) Citation: Interpreting Vulcan Mannerisms, Soval, 2130.

 

[Noname Given]

I hereby release fustercluck into the public domain.

Yours, etc.,
/s/
jespah
Janet Gershen-Siegel, Esq.

But, but...this post isn't notarized!

 

[muCephi]

I wonder if the Axanar thought leaders on their site are still able to sell the idea they pushed for so long that team Axanar is the community of IDIC and love and inclusiveness and righteous fan film behavior, and critics are only excluded people muttering in the sewers of resentment against the great achievements of team Axanar.

Its becoming such a doubledown balloon, growing and growing... they have JJ's statement, and their self-lionizing filing, and they are waiting to see if it breaks in their favor. But if JJ blows his statement up, or if CBS comes down with draconian terms, or if the judge blows the crossfiling up with more ridicule, or if more dissatisfied insiders make damaging assertions like the author being told to write under a pen name, any of these things could derail them. And they have to juggle their donor perception through all of it.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...d-to-be-an-axanerd/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

 

[urbandefault]

I would think the countersuit was planned all along. Isn't that pretty much standard procedure?

Anyway, I am surprised that they again asked for dismissal, and summary judgment with prejudice. I'm not shure how that works, but it seems to me that it's a non-starter since their MTD was denied.

All the gushing about AP's lifelong fan status came across to me as BS, thrown in as filler. No way is it relevant.

 

[Professor Zoom]

Well, I'm for one glad JJ spoke up and the defendants filed their response, I was concerned we wouldn't get to 1000 pages....

 

[jespah]

We can get to 1000 pages just on the script for the radio drama about a young AP's life.

I call dibs on playing his mom. I want to wake him up every 2 hours. Because, reasons.

 

[SeerSGB]

I would think the countersuit was planned all along. Isn't that pretty much standard procedure?

Anyway, I am surprised that they again asked for dismissal, and summary judgment with prejudice. I'm not shure how that works, but it seems to me that it's a non-starter since their MTD was denied.

All the gushing about AP's lifelong fan status came across to me as BS, thrown in as filler. No way is it relevant.

Seems like the sort of stuff thatll just piss the judge off and end up putting them on his bad side

 

[Jam3s1701]

We can get to 1000 pages just on the script for the radio drama about a young AP's life.

I call dibs on playing his mom. I want to wake him up every 2 hours. Because, reasons.

I call dibs on the monster under the bed coz hey you know every kid had one didnt they??