CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

[Maurice]

I couldn't read it. It hurt my eyes.

Nice try.

It reduced my eyes to 74%

As to the review... As I predicted. Like shooting fish in a barrel. One could hope a lot of the indicated fanwank woulda gotten excised had the film ever been made, but my Magic 8-Ball says, "My reply is no".

Best line in the review, "That's when

Spoiler

their hidden fleet will attack

and we'll see a lot of Tobias Richter explosions. "

 

[Trekkin]

Breaking News: In retaliation for the lawsuit that they themselves have initiated against a fan film, CBS has decided put a Star Trek shaped embargo on Canada.

Of course. France is expected to be the next country to be caught in the Axanar firing line, with CBS goons reportedly being spotted kicking puppies on the streets of Calais. More updates at 11.

But seriously, is this one of you lot fucking with them?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Breaking News: In retaliation for the lawsuit that they themselves have initiated against a fan film, CBS has decided put a Star Trek shaped embargo on Canada.

Of course. France is expected to be the next country to be caught in the Axanar firing line, with CBS goons reportedly being spotted kicking puppies on the streets of Calais.

More updates at 11.

That makes no sense. But that's par for the course.

 

[Michael Hinman]

Do remember that if you cite Fair Use as your defense, you are admitting that you are violating someone else's copyrights and, if challenged, you may have to defend your reasons for violating those copyrights in court.

You may well be right. One might prevail on Fair Use grounds in a court of law, and the copyright situation of the script is certainly muddled because it's based on someone else's properties. However, given Alec Peters' propensity for legal pomposity, do you really want to take that risk?

That's what I was trying to say.

Allyn, with all due respect to you (and I'm sorry if I've been a little short -- I burned my hand yesterday, and typing isn't what it should be), I have been dealing with Fair Use as a journalist for more than two decades. Trust me, there is no legal issue with someone reporting and quoting from the screenplay.

 

[muCephi]

Nice try.
Best line in the review... "

And doubtless all the pew pew will require ships to fly within 50 yards of each other at 50 mph to engage. Ring systems will hold intact 100 yard wide rocks flying a few hundred yards from each other after 100 million years in existence, and captial ships will be able to withstand the internal g forces of maneuvering through such tight quarters (while still needing to bank to keep the g forces up and down relative to the passengers, like a WWI dogfight). For some reason, weapons will need to pop up and protrude to be useable. No one will have drone eyes that let them see around anything. Bridge consoles will still have no effective power surge protection, and bridges will still be in the most prominent protruding exterior portion of the hulls. Huge orange combustible fuel driven fireballs will emerge from ships carrying no such fuel, and the fireballs will propagate sound through vacuum, as will energy beams. Probably, some support ship will be carrying a whole bunch of Taiko drummers broadcasting to the fleet. None of this will be called war-is-fun fan service.

 

[Lord Garth]

My brother showed me "Axanar". I was blown away by it. I liked the documentary style. From the visual standpoint, I thought it very effectively meshed TOS, ENT, and the Abrams Films together. Several of the actors from the actual show. It looked great. Too great, I thought.

So, I'm not surprised that a lawsuit is taking place. I would've been more surprised if it wasn't. The fact that there's a new series on the way and Star Trek is no longer going to be an every three or four years deal, sealed its fate.

 

[Lynsioux]

Breaking News: In retaliation for the lawsuit that they themselves have initiated against a fan film, CBS has decided put a Star Trek shaped embargo on Canada.

But seriously, is this one of you lot fucking with them?

Great news!!! Now we can have Mounties in the musical. Musical Mounties, like a chorus line. Instead of Lawyer Ladies?

Re Sustenance:

 

[wtriker1701]

Well, I hate to be the spoiling voice here, but...

I see no value in reviewing a somewhat 4-5 year old script of a then-to-be-intended fan film exploring the adventures of the USS Ares at Axanar.. The real fun lies where the "Now We Are Professionals" deconstruct themselves and their project ever since last year and ongoing.
To have a bite in rotten flesh doesn't give me the joy in contrast of the actual "facts" that keep changing within the last 2 years from our Kickstarter/Indiegogo/AD friends. They tighten the rope around their own neck efficiently enough, In my opinion, and it's popcorn time every time AP opens his mouth and raises his voice.

Yes, here are those hard times we are to be patient, and that's not easy. But to be not pro-active helps us being obejctive as we can be, given the circumstances and the involved parties. Haters we will be called anyways! And that's fun alone, imho!

 

[Jay]

I think looking at the leak is useful as AP thought this script was great from the start. And that it was "TruTrek." So now we have an idea what he loves about Trek. Pew pew and war and bad writing.

 

[RedForman]

It's easy to spit out fan wank garbage, but to put good VFX behind it and then call it better than anything else out there is lunacy at its finest. Yeah, I'm sure a lot of that in the script has been changed, but reading that reddit thread + what we've already seen of Lord Alec & his Kool-Aid drinking followers has solidified my opinion a lot.

 

[#1RealTrekFan]

Apparently writers of The Best Star Trek Script ‏"Ever" will still be working on it each and every day to make it better during the filming of Axanar because Robert Meyer Burnett saw Bryan Singer did it on his professional independent Superman Returns fan film project.

That's right you Haters, Axanar is the Superman Returns of Star Trek.

 

[Campe]

RMB does not pick good movies to compare this project to: The Revenant (going massively over budget and losing Best Picture on Sunday), Gods of Egypt (which has been a critical and financial failure) and now Superman Returns (while being a financial success was a critical and fan disaster mainly for being too derivative)? Pick a good movie to compare Axanar to if you want us to trust you, Rob. (Yes, I know some think Revenant was good. I heartily disagree.)

 

[RedForman]

Apparently writers of The Best Star Trek Script ‏"Ever" will still be working on it each and every day to make it better during the filming of Axanar because Robert Meyer Burnett saw Bryan Singer did it on his professional independent Superman Returns fan film project.

That's right you Haters, Axanar is the Superman Returns of Star Trek.

I'm sure one is constantly reformulating the Kool-Aid they drink too.........

 

[Wetworth]

Provided the Reddit poster does in fact have a copy of the script, it is really depressing that "true Trek" regards the Enterprise as a warship, first and foremost. It makes one wonder why the ship had any scientific capabilities at all. There's a reason no one turned an old WWII battleship into a research vessel...

 

[HMS Ark Royal]

Provided the Reddit poster does in fact have a copy of the script, it is really depressing that "true Trek" regards the Enterprise as a warship, first and foremost. It makes one wonder why the ship had any scientific capabilities at all. There's a reason no one turned an old WWII battleship into a research vessel...

The Met Office used former WW2 ships as research and weather station ships

 

[Jay]

Maybe that would be interesting if the script had a big discussion of how Connie class was NOT going to be refit for war and all that? Doesn't seem like that was a theme.

 

[jespah]

No response on PACER yet this morning.

The day is young and it is early there. Stay tuned, sushi fans.

 

[Wetworth]

The Met Office used former WW2 ships as research and weather station ships

Interesting, I found a wiki article about the weather ships, is that what you mean?

If the Enterprise was the product of an arms race it would be equatable to something like HMS Vanguard, Yamato, or the Iowas. The biggest and baddest at the time. Of course Enterprise from Star Trek isn't really like that, it's a ship of exploration. The Klingon ships more closely resemble the ideology of the battleship: little comforts, limited scientific abilities. Really not much more than weapons and engines with just enough room to hold a large enough crew.

I don't have the script, and as far as I know no one has a current version, so I'm just basing this on the Reddit post and Prelude to Axanar. It seems fair to say the Constitution class, in Axanar's universe, was a response to the D7. Isn't that a major point in Prelude? Therefore it is a military project designed with the intention of being a better warship than the D7.

That's the impression I'm getting anyhow. I'd just rather watch the adventures of the Starship Enterprise over the warship Enterprise.

 

[RedForman]

It seems fair to say the Constitution class, in Axanar's universe, was a response to the D7. Isn't that a major point in Prelude? Therefore it is a military project designed with the intention of being a better warship than the D7.

That's the impression I'm getting anyhow. I'd just rather watch the adventures of the Starship Enterprise over the warship Enterprise.

To play devil's advocate for a second, it could be merely coincidental - based on how they interpreted the timeline & date the 'Four Years War' (which I assume begins in 2244 or 2245, right around the time the Constitution class would be launched).

Given the description & design of Garth's ship, the Ares (more of a warship than anything we've seen) - I'd think this is the case.

 

[carlosp]

So the @StarTrekAxanar Twitter account blocked the @AxaMonitor Twitter account. I guess ours was a doomed Forbidden Love™.