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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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muCephi said:
Q: What is Axanar Productions?

Axanar is not just an independent Star Trek film; it is the beginning of a whole new way that fans can get the content they want, by funding it themselves. Why dump hundreds or thousands of dollars a year on 400 cable channels, when what you really want is a few good sci-fi shows? Hollywood is changing. Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, and other providers are redefining content delivery, and AxanarProductions/Ares Studios hopes to be part of that movement.
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I have to say, that's an admirable goal. But the fact remains that they've gone about it in a completely underhanded way (in my opinion), and have done it with such a dickish attitude that I have no sympathy for them or their cultish band of sycophants.

AP & Co. started this crap, and now the fan's on HIGH.
 
Photoman15 said:
And I've seen worse in IP infringement. There is a douchebag (my opinion) who takes people personal Instagram photos and prints them, UNALTERED and sells them for (get ready) tens of thousands of dollars. Photographers have brought him to court and LOST.
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Ah, the ever popular, and equally convincing, "everybody does it, so it's ok" defense.
 
Albinator said:
If that was really what he wanted he should have approached them about a licensing agreement long ago. That's how real business is done.
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To be fair, real business also knowingly uses a lot of IP without permission, in the hope that either (a) nobody will notice and/or care, or (b) they can secure permission later after their sales are able to pay for the license fees. This is especially prevalent in the tech world.

Not that this excuses Peters; just sayin'. :)

CaptGrumpy said:
Ah, the ever popular, and equally convincing, "everybody does it, so it's ok" defense.
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There's also the fact that, if memory serves, the manner in which the instagram photos were presented was ruled transformative (which I still think is a crock, mind you). Something that won't likely apply to Axanar, as its presentation is no different than that of actual Star Trek.
 
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There's also the fact that, if memory serves, the manner in which the instagram photos were presented was ruled transformative (which I still think is a crock, mind you). Something that won't likely apply to Axanar, as its presentation is no different than that of actual Star Trek.[/QUOTE]

its loudly proclaimed as the purest possible representation of what Trek originally was, more authentic and free of transformation than current Trek IP holders can even conceive.
 
Cranston said:
This just posted. I'm starting to wonder if that's really Alec Peters. "Crap fanfilms"? He can't be THAT unhinged, can he?

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Why, I guess that would be my films. :)
 
Photoman15 said:
And I've seen worse in IP infringement. There is a douchebag (my opinion) who takes people personal Instagram photos and prints them, UNALTERED and sells them for (get ready) tens of thousands of dollars. Photographers have brought him to court and LOST.
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I think it would be good to post a link to that story and the reasoning behind the ruling.
 
Professor Zoom said:
I think it would be good to post a link to that story and the reasoning behind the ruling.
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The reasoning is that they published the images on Instagram. If Instagram's TOS allowed it they instagram users have no recourse. It sucks, and that sort of thing is why people are wary of Facebook and Google services.
 
Heh - and a new twist that I hadn't seen until now:

http://www.theguardian.com/artandde...-copyright-infringement-rastafarian-instagram

I particularly like this bit from the artist in question:
“Copyright has never interested me. For most of my life I owned half a stereo, so there was no point in suing me, but that’s changed now and it’s interesting … So, sometimes it’s better not to be successful and well-known and you can get away with much more. I knew what I was stealing 30 years ago but it didn’t matter because no one cared, no one was paying any attention.”
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Something I'm sure the Axanar crew probably agree with now.
 
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Ion said:
To be fair, real business also knowingly uses a lot of IP without permission, in the hope that either (a) nobody will notice and/or care, or (b) they can secure permission later after their sales are able to pay for the license fees. This is especially prevalent in the tech world.
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I have never heard of that. Anyone who does that in enterainment, licensing or consumer products is shady at best.
 
Albinator said:
I have never heard of that. Anyone who does that in enterainment, licensing or consumer products is shady at best.
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No disagreement here.

It's just a lot harder to avoid in the tech world, especially where patents are concerned. They allow patents for obvious things, so you can't so much as blink without "violating" one. That half of them are invalid is neither here nor there. :)
 
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