Have people involved in STC or NV or Renegades have their professional careers suffer? How were most people supposed to know that Axanar was a different beast altogether?
CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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That genre only works as a comedy. The least comedic "mockumentary" I can think of is Zelig and it's still Woody Allen so it's on the mildly comedic side.
Fair question. Anyone who's involved at this point, is either an idiot or total wannabe. If I were one of the real Hollywood people involved with Prelude I would try to pretend it didn't happen and just treat it as a skeleton in the closet.
Yup. It’s gone through various hosts at this point, and clearly spun out of Alec’s various appearances on several Trek.FM shows.
Wall of text for those interested in the latest episode:
RMB hosted with Alec until recently, which was obviously an early sign that he was jumping ship. This episode focuses on the recent “fan weekend” and features interviews with the guy behind Axanar Coffee (where Alec is praised for his experience in dealing with CBS IP to avoid conflicts), the set builder, which has numerous bits of note including Alec reminiscing over his original choice of studio (which even the host alludes to the degree of work that would’ve been required on it), Alec wishing he’d just bought the Atlanta facility 3 years ago as it’s much better, and lots of commentary on how donor money wasn’t wasted in the now-abandoned warehouse conversion or junked transporter room.
Of course it’s all CBS’ fault that 500k was wasted over the year of the lawsuit (I’m sure that number could be easily questioned). There’s also a lot of talk about the quality of the set construction (which I don’t doubt) which is an excuse to take a swipe at creaks in Cawley’s sets. Let’s ignore their completed state though.
There’s some comments on the upcoming auction which will help fund Axanar (which at this point we can immediately transpose with “Alec”), and the fan club and it’s upcoming DragonCon appearance (which we know ended up with them kicked out).
The final interview is with Larry of OWC, who now fund the studio. It now seems confirmed they’re covering the rent, and listening to the interview it’s obvious the guy is just a big Trek fan who really wants to be involved in a Trek film. Reminded me of RMB in that regard. I’d feel sorry for the guy, but at this point he really should’ve been able to spot this as a bad investment. Especially as a businessman himself, but he’s clearly caught up in the dream of Axanar. At one point he references the cast seemingly oblivious to the fact most won’t return, which leads Alec into a discussion about how props are more important.
Honestly listening to it made me think it was like a window into a parallel universe.
And did the maker of Axanar Coffee receive a Cease and Desist letter, as well as come to this conclusion? Stuck with all the coffee, I suppose one could find a way to lose track of the 'conflict'...
Little known fact: Kickstarter/Indiegogo are in their industry actually called DryRunStarter and Interngogo for this very reason.
Because they would have had these costs no matter what, the business plan assumed fixed costs and studio asset-for-private-profit-buildout in this range. And this was for only about 2/3 of the year. So it could have been about a million they were figuring on for this during the year over and above actual production costs.
What sort of fan project posits somewhere in the ballpark of 750k$ to 1million$ in "overhead" per year to be obtained atop even bigger fundraisers?
m i c, k e y, p o n z i.
TOS didn't need super quality sets, though, did they? This fetish with high quality sets is attention in the wrong place. And in the end its play-technology panels. How much should be spent on play-technology? Its a P R O P, not a ship.
If 100 items at an average of $1000 each are auctioned at a net profit of 50% for the house after expenses (remember buyers and sellers pay atop the sale price), that's only 50k$. Not sure how this would make a lot of difference, given the demonstrated burn rate.
The fan level that loves the show but hasn't yet found out that Wil Wheaton tweets, perhaps. About Axanar, perchance.
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...where 50-somethings *still* can't see it all crashed and is burning their time and money in front of them, while the musician sings "the vision is ever glorious".
The best thing that can realistically happen is if Larry fires Alec Peters and brings in someone competent to write and execute Axanar. The remaining half-built sets could likely be saved if this happens.
I don't see it as being very probable, but still *theoretically* possible.
I feel like this is what needs to happen. Bring someone else in. Make the damn movie. Of course LFIM will cry like the little man-child he is, but it will eventually subside and once everything is done, this will gradually fade away (with LFIM wailing along the way)
The punch line to this ongoing million + dollar joke is . . . wait for it . . .
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LFIM:
That is awesome!
What's with the horizontal jazz hands?LFIM:
CSA: The Confederate States of America is a satire, but the tone of the movie itself is serious.
The Martian Invasion I referenced works quite well and it is not a comedy.
A number of television dramas have gone off format and done episodes that were entirely or partially faux-documentaries.
The West Wing had "Access," Stargate SG-1 had "Heroes," and Babylon 5 had "And Now For A Word."
Some of these were more successful than others; I'm sure there are plenty of other examples that I'm not thinking of.
The West Wing had "Access," Stargate SG-1 had "Heroes," and Babylon 5 had "And Now For A Word."
Some of these were more successful than others; I'm sure there are plenty of other examples that I'm not thinking of.
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