Content-wise it could be construed as parody (which is probably the majority of fan-films, at least anything the average person is interested in watching). There is a cottage industry of Youtube megachannels that riff on pop culture. (The Klingon Gangnam Style is from one of them, for instance.) Sometimes it seems like that's all these megachannels ever do is refer to pop culture in some shape or form, as it gets them eyeballs they wouldn't otherwise have.
CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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Content-wise it could be construed as parody (which is probably the majority of fan-films, at least anything the average person is interested in watching). There is a cottage industry of Youtube megachannels that riff on pop culture. (The Klingon Gangnam Style is from one of them, for instance.) Sometimes it seems like that's all these megachannels ever do is refer to pop culture in some shape or form, as it gets them eyeballs they wouldn't otherwise have.
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I'll let Trey know your opinion.
And yes, both Disney and Lucasfilm are aware of the project.
It can be selective defended, as has been hashed out many times in this thread.
Yeah, CBS/P tried that, and then got goaded into broadening that defense. Just because they can be selective doesn't mean it's a requirement.
A Trademark must be defended. Period. End of debate.
A Copyright can be selectively enforced as the IP holder sees fit, with no legal detriment.
Didn't you just contradict your earlier statement? It's not a requirement at all!
Man, am i dizzy from all those goalposts swooshing by! I never argued that they were not infringing. Every fanfilm of any franchise is, and while we are stating the obvious, every Star Wars fanfilm, that adheres to the contest guidelines, but is not entered into said contest, is too. All i am saying is, that the assertion, that the contest guidelines are binding for all Star Wars fanfilms and online films adhering to the guidlines are allowed (allowed in the sense of not being C&D'd into oblivion) and that all existing films are short vignettes (as claimed by mos6507) are false.
WTF. That is so wrong.
wonder what this is?
https://twitter.com/AxaMonitor/status/747720955083001858?lang=en-gb
https://twitter.com/AxaMonitor/status/747720955083001858?lang=en-gb
Robert Meyer Burnett and Alec Peters masturbating over each other for two hours, while shitting on every other fan film (except Ambush!) and blaming CBS for everything they themselves brought about.
Trey and company at www.pinkfive.com whatever they want but that doesn't mean I have to like it there are plenty of ways to monetize a project. I never said the project look bad or was bad I just don't like the way he feels like monetizing it but to each their own.
This is not a good mental image...
It's the sound of a barrel being scraped. It's what they'd intended to put on the DVD/Blu Ray as an extra which has now morphed into all they can actually afford to produce. Proving he still has a sense of humour Burnett invited people to join in and tweeted something along the lines of "all opinions welcome" which was cute. And, no doubt, the Axa-faithful will lap it up and donate more money without a shred of irony.
I think they can just make this too, can't they? They won't need to release it onto Youtube or anything. So if anybody here really wants to watch two red faced guys in their late fifties rant, rave and spit while they speak they'll have to donate!
Maybe RMB feels left out after he wasn't named as a Doe and wants his very own lawsuit.
This doesn't surprise me in the least, though to his credit, if it's a History Channel-style documentary and not an actual movie, then it seems like all he'd need to do is throw some cash to Tobias for some CGI and get LFIM to narrate the thing - not at all in the same league as what they were planning to do. (though still legally dubious of course)
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Per RMB: "I'm gonna' shoot some awesome scene recreations on our sets."
Will that include recreation of scenes showing the marketing and sales of Axanar coffee, model kits and other merch? A room full of undelivered perks?
I suspect not.
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Will that include recreation of scenes showing the marketing and sales of Axanar coffee, model kits and other merch? A room full of undelivered perks?
I suspect not.
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From "fully-professional, independent Star Trek film" over fan film to pet project.
And I'll predict the axa-crowd will be laughing their asses off against Big Bad Wolf Corporation - even the donors, not realizing they'll never get what they paid for...
And I'll predict the axa-crowd will be laughing their asses off against Big Bad Wolf Corporation - even the donors, not realizing they'll never get what they paid for...
That's the problem with court of public opinion. Copyright law is out of sync with what people feel is fair and balanced. People feel that selective enforcement is inherently UNfair. That's why these sort of discussions go in circles. That friction between our innate sense of fairness and copyright law can't reconcile themselves.
For those people who think everything is hunky dory, watch a little Lawrence Lessig. I'm not saying this to defend Axanar, but copyright law IS majorly dysfunctional, regardless. CBS/P had a chance to ameliorate that to some degree and they've fallen short of the mark.
The other day I mentioned a long-running Federal Trade Commission case against a defendant who tried to create loopholes. Well, when the FTC ordered the defendant to cease publishing materials that contained false and misleading health claims, the defendant's next move was to publish a book explaining how the government was out to get him and that he was the real victim. The book, of course, repeated all of the false and misleading claims that got him into trouble in the first place. And the FTC was not amused.
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