I suspect there weren't long term projects because Lucas film got out there sooner. And, Star Trek was an easy model to replicate (explore strange new worlds, etc.)
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I suspect there weren't long term projects because Lucas film got out there sooner. And, Star Trek was an easy model to replicate (explore strange new worlds, etc.)
Well there was this one Star Wars (Dark Resurrection) fan film series made by Italian Star Wars fans.
Volume 0 was 41 minutes
Volume 1 was about one hour long
(and they both have English subtitles)
Dark Resurrection Volume 0
Dark Resurrection Volume 1
I had stated that Star Wars does not allow crowd funding which is correct with regards to their fan film contest. There have been some Star Wars crowdfunding projects although their budgets have been very modest were talking $5,000 with about 4 or 5 projects they are very clearly fan productions the most likely one to potentially draw some attention and may get shut down would be the Han Solo film that funded recently for $20,000. Most Star Wars stuff is short form and the ones that people truly praise like Darth Maul Apprentice focus on lightsaber combat which Disney can't argue is good for business whether official or not we all love good martial arts scenes. There has yet to be any projects in the range of Star Trek fan productions. The other Arm of Disney Marvel has shut down fan productions specifically those with characters that are being used in on going or currently scheduled projects as you can see below. I would not be surprised if the Han Solo one gets shut down as they are doing the young Han Solo movie.
http://www.mtv.com/news/2603281/punisher-fan-film-shut-down-by-marvel/
http://moviepilot.com/posts/3755142
https://www.ap2hyc.com/2013/01/marvel-shuts-down-deadpool-webseries/
http://www.mtv.com/news/2603281/punisher-fan-film-shut-down-by-marvel/
http://moviepilot.com/posts/3755142
https://www.ap2hyc.com/2013/01/marvel-shuts-down-deadpool-webseries/
The guidelines for Star Wars are only for their contest, fan films not made for that contest are benignly ignored as the Star Trek ones were There are quite a lot in the 15 to 20 minutes brackets but also longer ones.
Examples:
Star Wars Revan (2015) 75 minutes
Dark Awakening: A Star Wars Fanfilm 35 minutes
Star Wars Revelations (2005) 45 minutes
I.M.P.S. - The Relentless (from 2005) 20 minutes per episode (six or seven total episodes planned)
Episode 1:
Episode 2:
Examples:
Star Wars Revan (2015) 75 minutes
Dark Awakening: A Star Wars Fanfilm 35 minutes
Star Wars Revelations (2005) 45 minutes
I.M.P.S. - The Relentless (from 2005) 20 minutes per episode (six or seven total episodes planned)
Episode 1:
Episode 2:
I don't think Lucasfilm/Disney allowed the producers of these films to raise hundreds of thousands of dollars via crowdfunding. That's probably where CBS should have put its foot down earlier.
There are a lot of them that are ignored largely due to length I believe and the lack of crowdfunding. We don't see $600,000 being raised for Darth Maul the series (don't think that would last on kickstarter for more than a few minutes before disney sends and C&D). I was just explaining what I feel the difference is between the two fan bases one works far harder on labors of love that are very much amateur products and is much like what the original Star Trek fan films were beginning with Hidden frontier if I am not mistaken. I think that's the reason that they are currently ignored due to the fact that crowdfunding is extremely modest and we have yet to see a true long form productions that attempts to replicate the official productions at a professional level.
It was real... just that the government has been covering it up.
Well, two more of my studio friends feel that their Star Trek production is done. I hope this isn't the case
Oh god, I can't believe I listened to this idiot again. Why are there still people offering him a platform to propagate his nonsense? "Axaverse" my ass.
This comes down to money. The Mouse would crush anyone trying to raise hundreds of thousands of dollars off of their IP.
I listened to the G and T podcast earlier today it was a good show. Have you guys thought about comparing the amount of fan encouraged works by various IPs to the new Star Trek Guidelines. I know you have talked about Star Wars some major IPs don't even allow Fan Fiction such as the Dragonriders of Pern, I have heard that George R.R. Martin hates fan fiction, also you have all the cases of Marvel and Disney shutting people down and even forcing a hospital to repaint it's walls as characters were used without license. I think it would help to illustrate just how lucky we are and how fortunate CBS/P haven't taken down all of the contents that's been produced already!
I found the G&T show interview with Chris Gossett very enlightening, particularly in his comparison of Axanar and STC's production atmosphere. It's very clear what he's talking about... I remember watching a video about the Axanar bridge construction, and the designer was so upbeat and went through all the consoles and bridge details, he was really jazzed, then just before they cut the camera, the guy behind the camera (don't know if it was Peters or Burnett) says "Ok back to work, you're still on the clock". He was not joking. I'll post a link if I can find it.
I found it pretty cool that Gossett was initially poisoned against Vic from AP's vitriol, but had a chance to see things for what they really were. He was invited to a dinner with the STC production which he compared to a family reunion. He had his eyes opened.
I found it pretty cool that Gossett was initially poisoned against Vic from AP's vitriol, but had a chance to see things for what they really were. He was invited to a dinner with the STC production which he compared to a family reunion. He had his eyes opened.
The fan film contest was created in response to a wide number of fan films being made. No, they never reached Axanar Epic-ness, but I think Lucasfilm could see the writing on the wall.
Curiously, The Fan Film Awards is similar to what Lucasfilm wanted to do years ago about all of the infringing websites using their assets. They created a space for fans to upload their websites -- and attached legal ownership to the product.
All of this is about protecting IP and not having some other party make money off the copyright holder's efforts. While the money Axanar made was tiny compared to Trek as a whole, it eventually pissed CBS off to the point that they had to step in and stop things. If Star Wars fan films ever do the same, you can bet Disney will unleash their Flying Monkeys of Legal Doom too. (They already have over a Marvel fan-film.)
http://fanlore.org/wiki/In_Defense_of_Starwars.com
Right, but all of those are copyright infringement. The fan film contest is the only way to be legally allowed to make a SW film. That's what all of this is in relation to, IP and Copyright.
If this not introduced into evidence ... well, there's probably enough other incriminating stuff anyway. But the court would love this.
That is a great idea. I'll send you a note (I don't think you can send PMs yet, but I believe you can respond. I'll wait in case you can't respond yet - no worries!)
Was it determined whether that AP quote about not caring about Axanar was real? Sorry to ask again, I am curious. It doesn't seem like it would be him at any early stages from the accounts of sincerity Mr. Gossett made. But later, after the money rolled in, who knows..
If true, I think it might be the sort of thing that his attorneys could use before the judge, combined with multiple examples of AP refusing settlements, to say their client is unreasonable and they would like to withdraw from the case.
If true, I think it might be the sort of thing that his attorneys could use before the judge, combined with multiple examples of AP refusing settlements, to say their client is unreasonable and they would like to withdraw from the case.
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