CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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It's on CBS v Axanar on Facebook too. My favorite part:
"Counterdefendants deny that Defendant Alec Peters “reached out to CBS” on multiple occasions, admit that Defendant Alec Peters spoke to Bill Burke and to John Van Citters, but state that Mr. Peters was never given permission to use Star Trek Copyrighted Works, nor was he provided with “guidelines” regarding ways in which he could use Plaintiffs’ intellectual property for his Star Trek film projects, for either commercial or non-commercial use, nor was he told that his use of such Star Trek Copyrighted Works would be tolerated."
Translation: "Alec Peters is a GODDAMN LIAR," now entered into public record,
"Counterdefendants deny that Defendant Alec Peters “reached out to CBS” on multiple occasions, admit that Defendant Alec Peters spoke to Bill Burke and to John Van Citters, but state that Mr. Peters was never given permission to use Star Trek Copyrighted Works, nor was he provided with “guidelines” regarding ways in which he could use Plaintiffs’ intellectual property for his Star Trek film projects, for either commercial or non-commercial use, nor was he told that his use of such Star Trek Copyrighted Works would be tolerated."
Translation: "Alec Peters is a GODDAMN LIAR," now entered into public record,
And we have CBS' Answer.
They told Axanar to fuck off. In legaleese. :-)
Paramount_Pictures_Corporation_v_Axanar_Productions_Inc_et_al__cacdce-15-09938__0049.0.pdf
They told Axanar to fuck off. In legaleese. :-)
Paramount_Pictures_Corporation_v_Axanar_Productions_Inc_et_al__cacdce-15-09938__0049.0.pdf
Other bit? Axanar's talking point about Van Critters giving Alec permission to make Axanar is denied in the complaint. They also gave a general denial about the Comic Con meeting where permission was given.
"....Counterdefendants deny that Defendant Alec Peters “reached out CBS” on multiple occasions, admit that Defendant Alec Peters spoke to Bill Burke and to John Van Citters, but state that Mr. Peters was never given permission to use Star Trek Copyrighted Works, nor was he provided with “guidelines” regarding ways in which he could use Plaintiffs’ intellectual property for his Star Trek film projects, for either commercial or non-commercial use, nor was he told that his use of such Star Trek Copyrighted Works would be tolerated.
"Counterdefendants admit that Peters met with Liz Kalodner on the Paramount Studios lot and spoke with Ken Ross, who attended a portion of the Prelude to Axanar showing at the 2014 Comic-Con. Counterdefendants lack knowledge or information sufficient to form a belief as to the truth of Counterclaimants’ remaining allegations in Paragraph 18 and, on that basis, deny the allegations."
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"....Counterdefendants deny that Defendant Alec Peters “reached out CBS” on multiple occasions, admit that Defendant Alec Peters spoke to Bill Burke and to John Van Citters, but state that Mr. Peters was never given permission to use Star Trek Copyrighted Works, nor was he provided with “guidelines” regarding ways in which he could use Plaintiffs’ intellectual property for his Star Trek film projects, for either commercial or non-commercial use, nor was he told that his use of such Star Trek Copyrighted Works would be tolerated.
"Counterdefendants admit that Peters met with Liz Kalodner on the Paramount Studios lot and spoke with Ken Ross, who attended a portion of the Prelude to Axanar showing at the 2014 Comic-Con. Counterdefendants lack knowledge or information sufficient to form a belief as to the truth of Counterclaimants’ remaining allegations in Paragraph 18 and, on that basis, deny the allegations."
pg-4
Lastly, in response to Axanar's mention that Lin and Abrams said the case was going to be dropped / settled, CBS response is pretty much "Yes, that's what they said. So what?"
Those are the highlights.
Those are the highlights.
Sorry to repeat what others have already posted, but my Trek BBS page didn't update to show the last few entries until just now. It's always curious how this site paginates and updates.
They also say they lack sufficient information to assess the truth of the allegation in this case. Whether or not there is settlement discussion going on, wouldn't they know this and thus have information upon which to confirm or deny the Lin/Abrams statement?
CBS/Paramount be like
I've never really understood this bit of behavior. Professional microphones are expensive and not I would expect really designed to just be dropped at will. Do these people also let go of the steering wheel on the highway if they want to make a point while driving?
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There really isn't anything to confirm or deny about the Abrams statement. They can admit he spoke but not that he knew WTF he was talking about. Easiest way to do this is to simply deny the statement and let counterclaimants prove any of it.
Is there a "Jesus, catch the mic!" meme?
Some amusing bits in C/P's response. You can practically see their eyes rolling.
Now the inevitable question is...
Was CBS/P prepared to let Alec off with a wrist-slap until the counter-claim?
I'm sure opinions on this are split, but it seems that way to me.
Either way, it was a really stupid gesture on his part. He should have seized the opportunity to do everything in his power to concede and settle.
Was CBS/P prepared to let Alec off with a wrist-slap until the counter-claim?
I'm sure opinions on this are split, but it seems that way to me.
Either way, it was a really stupid gesture on his part. He should have seized the opportunity to do everything in his power to concede and settle.
This was my Favorite Part!
"RESPONSE TO PRAYER
Counterdefendants deny that Counterclaimants are entitled to any of the relief requested in the Prayer contained in the Counterclaim and further deny that Counterclaimants are entitled to any relief whatsoever."
With deference to the Legalese Expertise of Madame Chief Justice Jespah, does this "Response to Prayer" mean that High Lord Infringer doesn't have one?...
"RESPONSE TO PRAYER
Counterdefendants deny that Counterclaimants are entitled to any of the relief requested in the Prayer contained in the Counterclaim and further deny that Counterclaimants are entitled to any relief whatsoever."
With deference to the Legalese Expertise of Madame Chief Justice Jespah, does this "Response to Prayer" mean that High Lord Infringer doesn't have one?...
Yes and no. Studio mics can run up to several thousand $. However, stage mics for live performance are often built like Humvees to take exactly that kind of abuse. I have a decades-old Electro Voice that I used as field mic when I was a reporter. I never used it to drive nails, but in a pinch, I could have!
Pretty much.
Yeah, "he said, she said" won't get anyone very far in court. I really believe that when the other shoe drops, it going to be the equivalent of several pairs of concrete galoshes.
well, if my jetliner were nosing down, this is not what I would want to hear in my head...
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